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Post by dolphie on Aug 7, 2009 3:31:15 GMT -5
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Post by jdredd on Aug 7, 2009 10:47:34 GMT -5
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Post by johng on Aug 7, 2009 10:51:21 GMT -5
JD they have you and I nailed with variations to fit our daily moods
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Post by Tired in CV on Aug 10, 2009 17:32:55 GMT -5
I will be the first to admit I know little about the current situation in Honduras. Was the ex-president elected, if so then the military coup should be condemed. Go back to the beginning of the thread! He was elected but the Supreme Court AND Congress charged him with attempting to change the constitution and ORDERED the military to remove him from the country. THAT was their mistake, they should have just thrown him into prison! Removing him from his presidency is a legal option for them. Thus, it was NOT a MILITARY coup as they responded to orders. It was not an action initiated by military commanders so that the military can take control!
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Post by jdredd on Aug 10, 2009 17:48:21 GMT -5
True enough, as far as we know TCV. For the sake of argument I will assume the military was not pulling strings behind the scene. Also, I don't know how compromised the Supreme Court or Congress is by the usual behind-the-scenes wealthy oligarchs and landowners that infest Latin America. All I know is when I see students take to the streets in support of Zelaya, they are where I would put my money on being the good guys whatever the legalisms are or what the WSJ says.
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Post by johng on Aug 10, 2009 18:07:50 GMT -5
True enough, as far as we know TCV. For the sake of argument I will assume the military was not pulling strings behind the scene. Also, I don't know how compromised the Supreme Court or Congress is by the usual behind-the-scenes wealthy oligarchs and landowners that infest Latin America. All I know is when I see students take to the streets in support of Zelaya, they are where I would put my money on being the good guys whatever the legalisms are or what the WSJ says. Of course, we see how well that worked for the Iranians!
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Post by jdredd on Aug 10, 2009 18:19:34 GMT -5
I don't think it's finished for the Iranians yet either.
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Post by johng on Aug 11, 2009 15:35:28 GMT -5
Its not finished for Americans either!
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Post by jdredd on Aug 11, 2009 17:14:28 GMT -5
Its not finished for Americans either! Nor should it ever be...
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Post by disrupter on Aug 14, 2009 21:57:34 GMT -5
Now this coup of the elite power brokers against a president who had begun to work for the people, the mostly poor people of Honduras, has just reportedly killed the first protester against it & for the duly elected president Zelaya. They did a complete media blackout. A reasonably effective denial of truth to the Honduran people. They did manage to choreograph some reasonably large crowds of coup supporters, but clearly there is a very large portion of the population who's opinion is being suppressed with threats of violent, murderous reprisals by the military, backed by the outlaw elites. The elite law breaker spiders are once again trying to spin their predatory webs as 'legitimized'. We can not allow ourselves to be easily fooled. Honduras slides toward greater instability Will Weissert And Jeanneth Valdivieso, Associated Press Writers, 6 July 2009 Quote: news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090706/...R1cmFzc2xpZA--This is clearly a theft of democracy from the hands of the long abused people of Honduras, a theft at the hands of the violent, outlaw right that has for too long persisted in control of much of Central & South America, That almost invariably a formerly treacherous United States has supported. Let us step forward for democracy. Democracy that favors healthier economics & prosperity. Let us be in favor of something that is both righteous as well as in our ultimate self-serving interests. In some ways these criminal insiders are not unlike the corpo-government closed & self-rationalized circuit that has hijacked the US away from the best interests of the American people. Let us stand up for our own interests, unafraid, & let us stand up for our oppressed Honduran brothers & sisters, who need us now.
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Post by jdredd on Aug 14, 2009 22:04:38 GMT -5
Wasn't someone saying we need a far left guy?
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Post by jdredd on Aug 14, 2009 22:06:52 GMT -5
"The elite law breaker spiders are once again trying to spin their predatory webs as 'legitimized'."
Again with the animal comparisons. What's up with that? Hey, I wouldn't mind having a far lefty to pick on.
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Post by dolphie on Aug 14, 2009 22:23:34 GMT -5
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Post by dolphie on Aug 14, 2009 22:24:51 GMT -5
"The elite law breaker spiders are once again trying to spin their predatory webs as 'legitimized'." Again with the animal comparisons. What's up with that? Hey, I wouldn't mind having a far lefty to pick on. Further left than you, dj, larry, bruce, JO ? How can that be possible?
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Post by johng on Aug 15, 2009 15:09:32 GMT -5
"The elite law breaker spiders are once again trying to spin their predatory webs as 'legitimized'." Again with the animal comparisons. What's up with that? Hey, I wouldn't mind having a far lefty to pick on. JD I think this is your "Guest Philosopher" that you worked before he has just come out of the clouds and into the sewer to play with you somemore!
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