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Post by bruce on Jun 14, 2009 7:24:28 GMT -5
Well. there are a lot of questions and misinformation. The '92 riots took place in various parts of Central and South LA. A large Sears was looted on Santa Monica Blvd in South Hollywood, along with a number of smaller stores. Mostly Hispanics. The Reginald Denny incident occurred at Normandie and Florence, in the heart of South Central. I lived in Koreatown , at 1st and Western, just north of the shops were Korean store owners were protecting their shops. Most of the rioters were not customers since the stores mostly catered to a Korean clientele. In the latter two instances, the rioters were black.
During the Watts riots, I lived in Phoenix. There were rumors on the two "talk" shows that 100's of carloads of armed blacks were headed to Phoenix from LA to "attack" the city. Of course these were false and nothing happened. The LAPD estimated that between 7,000 and 12,000 unique individuals participated in the riots. That's certainly a scary number but at that time LA and area had 925,000 blacks. In other words, 98.7% of the black population did not participate, most were frightened.
"You don't just have it in for the "rich" CEO's but any successful business person!". I wonder who the "you" refers to?
Nikki, I think you may have been thinking of a gang problem, gang members are money-oriented, and who is more likely to have money and valuables, like expensive watches and jewelry. I advised my wife, who was Korean-Filipina, not to drive alone after dark, in certain areas, of America's Finest City, including Southeast, Logan Heights and City Heights.
An interesting note; the black population of LA has allegedly dropped to around 550,000 with the influx of Hispanics. Most have moved to the Riversiude, San Bernardino, Ontario and Palmdale areas.
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Post by CM on Jun 14, 2009 11:37:30 GMT -5
Not a pretty time. The thing I remember most (besides the goofy rumor that the riots had spread to Parkway Plaza of all places) were the pictures of Korean store owners standing on the roof of their stores with rifles ready to blow the brains out of any of their former customers who tried to loot their precious goods...shopkeeper values, I guess... Sometimes you leave me just plain speechless. Honestly I don’t get it, their livelihood, their possessions are being attacked and you mock their defense or do you enjoy being provocative.
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Post by CM on Jun 14, 2009 11:40:03 GMT -5
"You don't just have it in for the "rich" CEO's but any successful business person!". I wonder who the "you" refers to? I think it is aimed at JD, he wears it well.
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Post by jdredd on Jun 14, 2009 11:42:38 GMT -5
Tired: If I "have it in" for any successful business person, it is because I do have qualms about some of the values "success" seems to develop in people. But on a personal level, if I meet someone and they told me they killed someone looting their store, I certainly would not condemn them in any way. The only thing I might feel is pity that circumstance brought them to the point where they felt the need to take a life to protect their material well-being. That is a slippery moral slope, which I'm glad I haven't had to start down. I'm still grateful I never had to go to Vietnam and kill people that never did me any harm.
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Post by lou on Jun 14, 2009 13:16:39 GMT -5
Poor Lou. You never heard of the Black Eyed Peas? They have been around for years and sold millions of units (recorded music). Incredible. And don't blame age, I'm 64 and a fan of their's. No, never heard of them! Sad but true! I have heard of Squashed Pumpkins, though, does that count?
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Post by lou on Jun 14, 2009 13:19:01 GMT -5
When was the last time time there was a riot in San Diego? 40 or 45 years ago? When was there last a riot in California?* The "Rodney King" riots in the early 90's. Were you aware the majority of rioters were hispanic? Seems like you may be living in the past. *not including prison "riots". I don't think SD ever rioted, certainly not the way LA did. And yes, wasn't it a treat to see the Mexican fly along the thieves looting the various and sundry stores!
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Post by lou on Jun 14, 2009 13:22:41 GMT -5
When was the last time time there was a riot in San Diego? 40 or 45 years ago? When was there last a riot in California?* The "Rodney King" riots in the early 90's. Were you aware the majority of rioters were hispanic? Seems like you may be living in the past. *not including prison "riots". San Diego has been my home base for about 50-55 years and I don't recall ever a riot. There was a problem in the 80's a kid shot a SD cop I think his last name was Penn (sp) maybe there were some minor rioting then. Bruce, do you recall? I remember reading about that and I don't think there was a riot. Bruce, do you recall?
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Post by nikki on Jun 14, 2009 14:16:18 GMT -5
When was the last time time there was a riot in San Diego? 40 or 45 years ago? When was there last a riot in California?* The "Rodney King" riots in the early 90's. Were you aware the majority of rioters were hispanic? Seems like you may be living in the past. *not including prison "riots". San Diego has been my home base for about 50-55 years and I don't recall ever a riot. There was a problem in the 80's a kid shot a SD cop I think his last name was Penn (sp) maybe there were some minor rioting then. Bruce, do you recall? That was the case of Sagon Penn: www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20020705-9999_1m5sagon.htmlThe City Council instructed the police department to organize a special task force to improve relations between police and minority groups. There was no rioting. He was aquitted.
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Post by CM on Jun 14, 2009 14:35:36 GMT -5
San Diego has been my home base for about 50-55 years and I don't recall ever a riot. There was a problem in the 80's a kid shot a SD cop I think his last name was Penn (sp) maybe there were some minor rioting then. Bruce, do you recall? That was the case of Sagon Penn: www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20020705-9999_1m5sagon.htmlThe City Council instructed the police department to organize a special task force to improve relations between police and minority groups. There was no rioting. He was aquitted. Thanks Nikki. I got the last name and the decade correct I love it when the gray matter works.
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Post by bruce on Jun 14, 2009 18:09:26 GMT -5
I wasn't here and I don't know much about it. It was reported on in LA, but was not a very big story.
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Post by Tired in CV on Jun 14, 2009 23:35:08 GMT -5
The only thing I might feel is pity that circumstance brought them to the point where they felt the need to take a life to protect their material well-being. That is a slippery moral slope, which I'm glad I haven't had to start down. I'm still grateful I never had to go to Vietnam and kill people that never did me any harm. I agree that it is a shame that the circumstances comes to civil disturbances that leads to deaths or injuries. Remember that those protecting their businesses were protecting their life investments and their families. As stated, many lived in or above their stores. Their lives were at risk! They had NOTHING to do with Rodney King and yet they were targeted. The rioters, led by gangs, no longer were rioting about Rodney King but were more interested in stealing what they could and creating damage! By all means be greatful that you did not go to Vietnam! It was not a vacation by any means. You did miss an opportunity to learn a lot about yourself though! The second half of that sentence belongs to the "ME" generation!
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Post by jdredd on Jun 15, 2009 0:38:47 GMT -5
The only thing I might feel is pity that circumstance brought them to the point where they felt the need to take a life to protect their material well-being. That is a slippery moral slope, which I'm glad I haven't had to start down. I'm still grateful I never had to go to Vietnam and kill people that never did me any harm. I agree that it is a shame that the circumstances comes to civil disturbances that leads to deaths or injuries. Remember that those protecting their businesses were protecting their life investments and their families. As stated, many lived in or above their stores. Their lives were at risk! They had NOTHING to do with Rodney King and yet they were targeted. The rioters, led by gangs, no longer were rioting about Rodney King but were more interested in stealing what they could and creating damage! By all means be greatful that you did not go to Vietnam! It was not a vacation by any means. You did miss an opportunity to learn a lot about yourself though! The second half of that sentence belongs to the "ME" generation! I might have been able to learn about myself but I have my doubts I would have survived boot camp, let alone the battlefield. You do have a point about the second half of the sentence, but I felt I served my country best by NOT going and doing something I believed was harmful to it's best interests.
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Post by bruce on Jun 15, 2009 15:35:08 GMT -5
"I'm sure it's one of Michelle's ancestors-probably harmless". Rusty De Pass, South Carolina GOP activist, former chairman of the state elections commission. His Facebook entry after a gorilla escaped from the Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia, South Carolina. He apologized "if anybody was offended".
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Post by jackoliver on Jun 15, 2009 15:43:44 GMT -5
there is no doubt racism is alive and well in our country.
I wish Dr. Martin Luther King could have witnessed President Obama being sworn in as President.
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Post by CM on Jun 15, 2009 16:02:21 GMT -5
"I'm sure it's one of Michelle's ancestors-probably harmless". Rusty De Pass, South Carolina GOP activist, former chairman of the state elections commission. His Facebook entry after a gorilla escaped from the Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia, South Carolina. He apologized "if anybody was offended". The man’s comment was terrible - apparently he was referencing something the First Lady had said a few weeks earlier. I as an evolutionist would believe we all evolved from something, even at that his statement was wrong and like David Letterman I hope he pays the consequences.
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