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Post by jdredd on Jan 31, 2011 23:16:46 GMT -5
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Post by animal on Feb 1, 2011 0:28:07 GMT -5
Listened to Beck today on the satillite radio coming across the desert... pretty interesting theory he laid out, comparing this to Iran way back when.....
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Post by jdredd on Feb 1, 2011 16:28:29 GMT -5
www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-goldberg-egypt-20110201,0,3164255.column "For the Obama administration, the stakes are enormous. "Jimmy Carter will go down in American history as 'the president who lost Iran,'" writes Aluf Benn in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. "Barack Obama will be remembered as the president who 'lost' Turkey, Lebanon and Egypt, and during whose tenure America's alliances in the Middle East crumbled." Right-wing ideology driven history always astounds me. Jimmy Carter "lost" Iran? How could we lose something we didn't own? And they are already spinning revolutions in the Middle East to pin it on Obama for no other reason than to further GOP partisan gain. What a crock. And Israel will go down in history as a transitory rogue and racist nation.
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Post by Rocket on Feb 1, 2011 21:09:50 GMT -5
The Egyptian government has information a diplomat at the U.S. embassy in Cairo secretly met yesterday with a senior leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Barack HUSSIEN Obama administration has been encouraging the protests rocking Egypt and targeting the rule of Murbarak. The president of U.S.A supports his Muslim Brotherhood. WWIII
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Post by animal on Feb 1, 2011 22:40:08 GMT -5
I agree....
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Post by jdredd on Feb 2, 2011 0:55:57 GMT -5
The Egyptian government has information a diplomat at the U.S. embassy in Cairo secretly met yesterday with a senior leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Barack HUSSIEN Obama administration has been encouraging the protests rocking Egypt and targeting the rule of Murbarak. The president of U.S.A supports his Muslim Brotherhood. WWIII Dream on...
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Post by nikki on Feb 2, 2011 2:36:50 GMT -5
The Obama administration claims they have had absolutely NO contact with the Muslim Brotherhood, yet they are now publicly saying that they believe they should have a seat at the table in the reformation of Egypt and the Arab world. And the MSM, doing Obama's bidding, has been bending over backwards to portary these protests as a spontaneous, grassroots revolution. Yet, this is what Obama has had to say and continues to say about the Tea Party:
And where was the Obama administration on the recent Iranian populous revolution. Silent.
This guy should never get a second term as the president of the United States of America.
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Post by jdredd on Feb 2, 2011 15:14:14 GMT -5
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12345656Mubarak digs in. Are we on the verge of a Tiananmen Square in Egypt? Who will Obama back? As nikki says, Obama's second term may be dependent on which way he goes. He already blew it in Afghanistan by following the Neocon's advice.
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Post by nikki on Feb 2, 2011 15:22:52 GMT -5
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Post by jdredd on Feb 2, 2011 15:23:01 GMT -5
english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/01/201113191947648929.html"The failure of the US to uphold its stated commitment to democratic values therefore goes beyond a simple surface hypocrisy, beyond the exigencies of great-power interests, to suggest a fundamental lack of belief in democracy as a means of promoting enlightened, long-term US interests in peace and stability."
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Post by Turk on Feb 2, 2011 16:37:28 GMT -5
english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/01/201113191947648929.html"The failure of the US to uphold its stated commitment to democratic values therefore goes beyond a simple surface hypocrisy, beyond the exigencies of great-power interests, to suggest a fundamental lack of belief in democracy as a means of promoting enlightened, long-term US interests in peace and stability." I have no clue what the hell this means JD and struggle greatly reading hate filled, anti-freedom and anti-American web sites but if it’s blaming the U.S. for Egypt’s problems then the author is a dumbass. If the U.S. had not subsidized Egypt unemployment would be over 50%, maybe that’s what we should do everywhere, let’em rot. What I do question is who the hell are these pro-Mubarak people? They took their sweet ass time in organizing, suddenly they appear. Are they the military masquerading as demonstrators? No matter how this ends up it’s not going to end positive for the U.S. that’s why Obama needs to keep his yap shut and stay the hell out of Egypt’s affairs. If Egyptians want a government with Islamic influences, it is their right, but when the brotherhood attacks free democratic countries we bomb the shit out of them. We need a president not a Bowrack. What’s most concerning is Obama’s failure to call the muslim brotherhood enemies of the U.S. Admittedly I don’t know much about them and I’ll do my homework but anything that has the word muslim before it raises red flag after red flag for me. I thought Obama was the savior of the Middle East and he was carrying peace on his shoulders. Obama is absolutely worthless and the entire Middle East collapses into chaos.
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Post by lou on Feb 2, 2011 17:45:55 GMT -5
www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-goldberg-egypt-20110201,0,3164255.column "For the Obama administration, the stakes are enormous. "Jimmy Carter will go down in American history as 'the president who lost Iran,'" writes Aluf Benn in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. "Barack Obama will be remembered as the president who 'lost' Turkey, Lebanon and Egypt, and during whose tenure America's alliances in the Middle East crumbled." Right-wing ideology driven history always astounds me. Jimmy Carter "lost" Iran? How could we lose something we didn't own? And they are already spinning revolutions in the Middle East to pin it on Obama for no other reason than to further GOP partisan gain. What a crock. And Israel will go down in history as a transitory rogue and racist nation. Perhaps you should do a little research and re-read the news articles coming from Iran among them NYT and WaPo articles. Sweet Jimmy also thought the Mullahs should be part of the NEW regime after the ouster of the Shah in Iran. This is again being echoed by the current presy, as I said before, this poor soul cannot learn from history.
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Post by nikki on Feb 2, 2011 17:56:49 GMT -5
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12345656Mubarak digs in. Are we on the verge of a Tiananmen Square in Egypt? Who will Obama back? As nikki says, Obama's second term may be dependent on which way he goes. He already blew it in Afghanistan by following the Neocon's advice. "Neocon's"? I don't even know what that term means, except that you don't know how to appropiately respond to the issues except to transfer the blame. Obama fought hard for this job, and it is on his watch now. He needs to put on the big-boy pants and take responsibility. And, oh, please, don't make me waste my time posting Obama's anti-American words including his "pastor" of some 20 years again. This guy should have never been elected president of this country. He and his lying campaign took advantage of America's good will in wanting to elect their first black president in this country, and all he has done is disrespect both. Obama is a lazy opportunist and a disgrace.
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Post by nikki on Feb 2, 2011 18:07:58 GMT -5
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12345656Mubarak digs in. Are we on the verge of a Tiananmen Square in Egypt? Who will Obama back? As nikki says, Obama's second term may be dependent on which way he goes. He already blew it in Afghanistan by following the Neocon's advice. "Neocon's"? I don't even know what that term means, except that you don't know how to appropiately respond to the issues except to transfer the blame. Obama fought hard for this job, and it is on his watch now. He needs to put on the big-boy pants and take responsibility. And, oh, please, don't make me waste my time posting Obama's anti-American words including his "pastor" of some 20 years again. This guy should have never been elected president of this country. He and his lying campaign took advantage of America's good will in wanting to elect their first black president in this country, and all he has done is disrespect both. Obama is a lazy opportunist and a disgrace. Oh, on second thought maybe I will. Who spends 20 years in a rch like this and then only after he gets elected president throws his pastor under the bus? A fraud, that's who. And that is just the nexis of his anti-American associations. What do they all have in common? Create chaos as the means to their end.
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Post by Tired in CV on Feb 2, 2011 22:58:20 GMT -5
There are many articles about the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. I find this one quite interesting as it shows that the Brotherhood is willing to cooperate with other opposition groups agains Mubarak to bring about change (Hmmm, where have we heard about change?). They want to assume positions of leadership in the open and be transparent (Hmmm, where have we heard transparent?). Yes, they eventually want Egypt to become a Muslim nation but it will be a hard road as much of Egypt "enjoys" its western influences and will not give them up easily. But first, the Muslims must help to achieve change, then be successful in gaining seats in the government. www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-muslim-brotherhood-20110131,0,5283199.story
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