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Post by jdredd on Oct 8, 2012 16:24:10 GMT -5
I love it: The right wing media is trying to crucify Obama for the Benghazi ambassador killing, yet gave Reagan a free pass on the Beirut bombing. Talk about a double standard.
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Post by Turk on Oct 8, 2012 19:01:03 GMT -5
I love it: The right wing media is trying to crucify Obama for the Benghazi ambassador killing, yet gave Reagan a free pass on the Beirut bombing. Talk about a double standard. Defending a murderer is unbecoming of you. Your boy should be in jail.
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Post by jdredd on Oct 8, 2012 19:10:52 GMT -5
I love it: The right wing media is trying to crucify Obama for the Benghazi ambassador killing, yet gave Reagan a free pass on the Beirut bombing. Talk about a double standard. Defending a murderer is unbecoming of you. Your boy should be in jail. I agree. I've believed for a long time he's a war criminal. But I still think the right wing press are hypocrites.
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Post by jdredd on Oct 9, 2012 19:39:24 GMT -5
I see Pakistan is having protests over the CIA's assassination drones. It seems to me that the killer drone campaign against "suspected" terrorists and anyone in the vicinity is a clear case of our tactics being penny-wise and pound foolish. Maybe Romney will have a better idea, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
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Post by Turk on Oct 10, 2012 11:10:01 GMT -5
More indication how inept and impotent this administration is. Obama could not be bothered with Benghazi; he was rehearsing for the Letterman show. Vote the scum-bag out, he’s a pathetic weak person.
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Post by Tired in CV on Oct 11, 2012 19:03:38 GMT -5
I see Pakistan is having protests over the CIA's assassination drones. It seems to me that the killer drone campaign against "suspected" terrorists and anyone in the vicinity is a clear case of our tactics being penny-wise and pound foolish. Maybe Romney will have a better idea, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Well, drones may be penny-wise and pound-foolish but would you rather we send troops in to do the job?
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Post by jdredd on Oct 11, 2012 21:14:47 GMT -5
Yes. The best Muslim troops our money can buy. History has proven they love to kill each other more than they do us!
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Post by jdredd on Oct 16, 2012 1:21:57 GMT -5
So how many months has this Syrian bloodbath been going on now? How many thousands have died? Yet Obama holds back support for the rebels because of Al Qaedaphobia. Talk about losing perspective. And my liberal friends are worried about Romney as President? Can Romney do any worse?
If I was Prez I would be paying Turkey to go in there and wipe the floor with Assad's blood. Guess that's one of a million reasons I'm not Prez.
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Post by jdredd on Oct 20, 2012 4:02:08 GMT -5
The Blowup in Benghazi does not seem to be going away. Fine with me, it's a lot more interesting than tax rates as a campaign issue. The whole Obama response to the "Arab Spring" has been tentative and equivocating since day one. I know for some righties it's a sign of a secret pro-Islamic tilt by BO, but for me it's just a sign he has no real ideology at all, just Obama for Obama. Though he is between a rock and a hard place considering our decades of support for Arab dictatorships that cooperate with us. When the people finally rise up, why would they trust the USA? And then a guy like Assad who was never our friend gets a "hands off" treatment instead of getting the Khaddafi solution. And Hillary is finished as SOS whether Obama is reelected or not, and I'm not disappointed to see her go. She was nowhere near my expectations of her.
Whether Romney can do any better remains to be seen. I can't see how he could put his lips any tighter on Netanyahu's ass much more than Obama has.
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Post by Tired in CV on Oct 20, 2012 4:10:51 GMT -5
Whether Romney can do any better remains to be seen. I can't see how he could put his lips any tighter on Netanyahu's ass much more than Obama has. I don't know where your head has been buried, but Obama has given Netanyahu the cold sholder along with the rest of Israel. Yes, he has met with him on rare occassion including once this year. But Obama has kept his distance concerning Israel as he doesn't want the rest of the Middle East to think he favors them. Just another lack of leadership and showing the world how weak he is along with slapping a real ally.
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Post by jdredd on Oct 20, 2012 5:26:16 GMT -5
Whether Romney can do any better remains to be seen. I can't see how he could put his lips any tighter on Netanyahu's ass much more than Obama has. I don't know where your head has been buried, but Obama has given Netanyahu the cold sholder along with the rest of Israel. Yes, he has met with him on rare occassion including once this year. But Obama has kept his distance concerning Israel as he doesn't want the rest of the Middle East to think he favors them. Just another lack of leadership and showing the world how weak he is along with slapping a real ally. Perhaps he has not been as mmy as some would like to Bibi, but he gives Israel all the commitment to their "survival" as they need to be able to do just about anything they'd like without fear of consequences. (I believe we are having some joint military thing going with them as I speak) The only "survival" I care about is America's. If Israel affects that positively (and I'm not convinced it does) that's great, but if I thought for one second they were dragging us down with them, I'd cut them loose in a nanosecond. One more reason I'm not President for sure.
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Post by Turk on Oct 20, 2012 11:18:05 GMT -5
I would have to agree with Tired. There has not been a more anti-Israel president since Carter. Nothing mming about the relationship, matter of fact I think the two men despise one another. And I’d rather support Israel than give 1.5 billion to the throat-slitter/head-looping muslim brotherhood. Brotherhood support began with Obama, support for Israel has been there for decades.
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Post by Turk on Oct 20, 2012 11:24:33 GMT -5
The Blowup in Benghazi does not seem to be going away. Fine with me, it's a lot more interesting than tax rates as a campaign issue. The whole Obama response to the "Arab Spring" has been tentative and equivocating since day one. I know for some righties it's a sign of a secret pro-Islamic tilt by BO, but for me it's just a sign he has no real ideology at all, just Obama for Obama. Though he is between a rock and a hard place considering our decades of support for Arab dictatorships that cooperate with us. When the people finally rise up, why would they trust the USA? And then a guy like Assad who was never our friend gets a "hands off" treatment instead of getting the Khaddafi solution. And Hillary is finished as SOS whether Obama is reelected or not, and I'm not disappointed to see her go. She was nowhere near my expectations of her. Whether Romney can do any better remains to be seen. I can't see how he could put his lips any tighter on Netanyahu's ass much more than Obama has. As stated above I don't agree with the last sentence, otherwise for the rest you might be correct. However I tend to believe Obama does have some tilt in him when it comes to muslims (I refuse to capitalize the word.) Benghazi is not going away, we learn more facts everyday of the screw-up. Hillary might take the fall but if Obama had not been rehearsing for the late night talk shows and paid attention things would have been different.
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Post by jdredd on Oct 20, 2012 14:22:15 GMT -5
Well, we can argue about Obama's or Netanyahu's personal distaste for each other, but I find it hard to believe our policies can be tilted any more toward Israel. Obama hasn't done anything more for the Palestinians than Bush did. We'll see if an even more pro-Israel stance by Slick Mitty will do AMERICA any good.
And I don't mind the right-wing press crucifying Obama for the Benghazi f-up (I'd prefer it if he got crucified for war crimes, but so be it), but I will point out once again the double standard the right-wing press (not that the lib press doesn't have it's own double standards) has on this issue. As I said earlier, the RWP not only gave Reagan a free pass on Beirut, it gave Bush II a free pass on 9/11/01. It was all Clinton's fault, remember?
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Post by jdredd on Oct 26, 2012 3:37:41 GMT -5
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/25/syrian-war-boils-over-onto-us-allies-outside-jihad/"Syria’s protracted civil war is spilling across its borders, creating breeding grounds for extremists, sharpening sectarian schisms and threatening to destabilize U.S. allies in the Middle East. The war has attracted jihadists from across the region, including Libya, where rebels overthrew Moammar Gadhafi’s regime a year ago and where al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb has sought to put down roots. “If al Qaeda-related groups gain a foothold in Syria, that is very bad news for everybody,” said Danielle Pletka, vice president of foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. “And if governments that have long been allies of the U.S. – [I’m] thinking here of a country like Jordan – end up being destabilized, that is also potentially very harmful for the United States,” she said. “There are so many wild cards." Yeah, to hell with overthrowing the Butcher of Damascus, we gotta worry about Al Qaeda. Democracy? It's only convenient if it aids our "interests." Typical AEI attitude. But what do you expect from an organization with Dick Cheney as a member? What's even funnier is that at the beginning of the "Arab Spring", some conservatives were trying to credit GW with inspiring it with the overthrow of Saddam. Now they are having to backtrack.
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