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Post by jdredd on Oct 2, 2021 0:36:17 GMT -5
I picked out these four Americans who were contemporaries and were influential in creating America as it is today. There are others but these four represent law enforcement, the military, the press, and religion. I’m wondering what made them the way they were, somewhat similar.
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Post by jdredd on Oct 2, 2021 12:04:51 GMT -5
I thought about adding George Meany to this list but it would make the title too long.
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Post by jdredd on Oct 4, 2021 1:34:54 GMT -5
Yes, all these people are ancient history. But so am I. And we still might have something to learn from what they did. Not that we will learn the same things. We never do.
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Post by Turk on Oct 6, 2021 9:56:21 GMT -5
I met J. Edgar twice in the early 70's he was a legend
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Post by jdredd on Oct 7, 2021 15:30:05 GMT -5
The only famous dude I ever met was Tim Leary.
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Post by Turk on Oct 7, 2021 17:15:01 GMT -5
The only famous dude I ever met was Tim Leary. That must have been a trip
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Post by jdredd on Oct 8, 2021 1:51:05 GMT -5
The only famous dude I ever met was Tim Leary. That must have been a trip By then he was just hawking books. But I did get an autographed copy.
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Post by jdredd on Dec 12, 2021 21:56:40 GMT -5
Picking up where I left off on this thread, I think it focuses on America post-war weirdness of the late forties and the fifties, and a few of the individuals that helped make it what it was. Of course that weirdness was broken by a new weirdness in the sixties, but in some ways I think that was a correction. Three of the four would burn out in the sixties. Billy Graham would carry on until the 2000’s, helping turn millions of Boomers into religious dupes.
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Post by jdredd on Dec 16, 2021 18:01:14 GMT -5
While I was watching a Billy Graham video on u tube Grandson of Dredd asked who I was watching. When I told him he said “Who?”. That made my day. But it also made me realize the people I’ve listed in this thread are in fact so ancient they may have well been Napoleon, and could only be of interest to a Boomer like myself.
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Post by Turk on Dec 17, 2021 16:56:23 GMT -5
While I was watching a Billy Graham video on u tube Grandson of Dredd asked who I was watching. When I told him he said “Who?”. That made my day. But it also made me realize the people I’ve listed in this thread are in fact so ancient they may have well been Napoleon, and could only be of interest to a Boomer like myself. I did have to lookup Henry Luce. The geezer has been dead since 1967, I was just in my mid 20's
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Post by jdredd on Dec 18, 2021 4:15:17 GMT -5
I decided to replace Billy Graham with Cardinal Spellman on this thread. I think Graham was too young for this group, and Spellman was closer to the rest of this group in philosophy.
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Post by jdredd on Dec 20, 2021 22:01:12 GMT -5
Maybe the bottom line of this thread is that these are some of the anti-Communist hard-hitters that helped invent the first Cold War. Do we have the same kind of heavyweights today?
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Post by jdredd on Jan 21, 2022 23:26:05 GMT -5
I just read where JEH made a speech to the GOP convention in 1960 claiming the three main threats to America were “Communists, eggheads, and beatniks”. Some things never change.
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Post by jdredd on May 24, 2022 12:48:10 GMT -5
Maybe this thread is really nostalgia about the good old days where left was left and right was right, as opposed to the political reshuffling of today where the working class is on the right and there is no left, just Establishment elites like Nancy Pelosi. Still, the more educated you are the more liberal, but they are wedded to the status quo unlike the old left IMHO. It’s the “Meritocracy”.
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Post by jdredd on Jul 9, 2022 18:59:31 GMT -5
Only an Old Left guy would still be interested in these guys. Of course the Spanish Civil War is still a thing as well. But I’ll be gone soon and everyone can forget.
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