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Post by bruce on Sept 11, 2009 21:15:58 GMT -5
My opinions are as valid as anybody else's and I'll keep on even if I'm the only one left here that thinks the degrading and vicious attacks on the president are un American, hateful, and demeaning. The attacks on President Bush were much more hateful and vicious, but then you didn't think that or complain because he wasn't your guy. Obama's stated goals and socialist agenda are what we are objecting to, but you are unable to make that distinction and consider it all to be some form of personal attack. You may presently have equal access to this board (not a right) to express your opinions, but I think we could start a new thread to discuss whether or not your opinions were "as valid as anybody else's" In that discussion, your worst enemy would be that pesky word "reasonable". Who made you king with the ability to determine who's opinions are valid? And the attacks against Bush NEVER came close to the vileness and nastiness we are now seeing.
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Post by bruce on Sept 11, 2009 21:19:38 GMT -5
WHY, WHY 72% of the Acorn employees are black. From where I come from its called Liberal slavery, ACORN hires the uneducated, ACORN hires the deprived, ACORN hires the idiot. ACORN hires blacks, fill my gas tank then ACORN (Obama) buys the black vote. Prove that 72% of ACORN employees are black. Uneducated, deprived, idiot=black. Way to go pal, you have shown me what you are again.
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Post by Jack on Sept 11, 2009 21:32:46 GMT -5
The attacks on President Bush were much more hateful and vicious, but then you didn't think that or complain because he wasn't your guy. Obama's stated goals and socialist agenda are what we are objecting to, but you are unable to make that distinction and consider it all to be some form of personal attack. You may presently have equal access to this board (not a right) to express your opinions, but I think we could start a new thread to discuss whether or not your opinions were "as valid as anybody else's" In that discussion, your worst enemy would be that pesky word "reasonable". Who made you king with the ability to determine who's opinions are valid? And the attacks against Bush NEVER came close to the vileness and nastiness we are now seeing. Common sense, logic and the ability to form a reasonable opinion made me "king". Lacking the same level of judgment or viable thought process means you're unable to attain a rank higher than Court Jester. Unlike you, I don't suffer from selective memory loss. I also don't form or offer opinions based on the beliefs of some nebulous groups that I refer to as "my community" or "my people".
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Post by dolphie on Sept 12, 2009 2:51:16 GMT -5
WHY, WHY 72% of the Acorn employees are black. From where I come from its called Liberal slavery, ACORN hires the uneducated, ACORN hires the deprived, ACORN hires the idiot. ACORN hires blacks, fill my gas tank then ACORN (Obama) buys the black vote. Prove that 72% of ACORN employees are black. Uneducated, deprived, idiot=black. Way to go pal, you have shown me what you are again. Bruce, Stop with the racist card already. Do not go putting words in Rocket's mouth. He did not say what you are accusing him of saying. He said what is true... ACORN does hire people like he described. He also did not say Black= ANYTHING... he said: //WHY 72% of the Acorn employees are black. From where I come from its called Liberal slavery, ACORN hires the uneducated, ACORN hires the deprived, ACORN hires the idiot. ACORN hires blacks, fill my gas tank then ACORN (Obama) buys the black vote.\\ He is defending blacks more than you are. He is showing how ACORN abuses blacks. He also does not state that there are ONLY blacks hired by ACORN - thus idiots can be anyone at ACORN ... INCLUDING WHITES.
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Post by bruce on Sept 12, 2009 16:44:12 GMT -5
Prove that 72% of ACORN employees are black. Uneducated, deprived, idiot=black. Way to go pal, you have shown me what you are again. Bruce, Stop with the racist card already. Do not go putting words in Rocket's mouth. He did not say what you are accusing him of saying. He said what is true... ACORN does hire people like he described. He also did not say Black= ANYTHING... he said: //WHY 72% of the Acorn employees are black. From where I come from its called Liberal slavery, ACORN hires the uneducated, ACORN hires the deprived, ACORN hires the idiot. ACORN hires blacks, fill my gas tank then ACORN (Obama) buys the black vote.\\ He is defending blacks more than you are. He is showing how ACORN abuses blacks. He also does not state that there are ONLY blacks hired by ACORN - thus idiots can be anyone at ACORN ... INCLUDING WHITES. Simple analysis is all it takes. Acorn hires blacks=Acorn hires uneducated, deprived, idiots= blacks are uneducated,deprived, idiots. It's called logic. You don't see it because you don't want to. From the"info" Rocket gave, that is the conclusion.
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Post by dolphie on Sept 12, 2009 21:03:28 GMT -5
Bruce, Stop with the racist card already. Do not go putting words in Rocket's mouth. He did not say what you are accusing him of saying. He said what is true... ACORN does hire people like he described. He also did not say Black= ANYTHING... he said: //WHY 72% of the Acorn employees are black. From where I come from its called Liberal slavery, ACORN hires the uneducated, ACORN hires the deprived, ACORN hires the idiot. ACORN hires blacks, fill my gas tank then ACORN (Obama) buys the black vote.\\ He is defending blacks more than you are. He is showing how ACORN abuses blacks. He also does not state that there are ONLY blacks hired by ACORN - thus idiots can be anyone at ACORN ... INCLUDING WHITES. Simple analysis is all it takes. Acorn hires blacks=Acorn hires uneducated, deprived, idiots= blacks are uneducated,deprived, idiots. It's called logic. You don't see it because you don't want to. From the"info" Rocket gave, that is the conclusion. It is YOUR inferred outcome _not_ his. You cannot lay onto him your personal choice to interpret his statement negatively. I don't look for things that are not there hoping that by looking hard enough it might appear. Apparently you do. What a sad way to view life.
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Post by bruce on Sept 13, 2009 7:28:36 GMT -5
It is much sadder to see nothing but negative and be obsessed with demeaning those with whom you don't agree. Based on what was said, classic logic brings one to a conclusion.
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Post by bruce on Sept 13, 2009 7:30:17 GMT -5
Who made you king with the ability to determine who's opinions are valid? And the attacks against Bush NEVER came close to the vileness and nastiness we are now seeing. Common sense, logic and the ability to form a reasonable opinion made me "king". Lacking the same level of judgment or viable thought process means you're unable to attain a rank higher than Court Jester. Unlike you, I don't suffer from selective memory loss. I also don't form or offer opinions based on the beliefs of some nebulous groups that I refer to as "my community" or "my people". They are not "nebulous" groups; they are real, living, breathing people.
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Post by jackoliver on Sept 13, 2009 10:13:16 GMT -5
The attacks on President Bush were much more hateful and vicious, but then you didn't think that or complain because he wasn't your guy. Obama's stated goals and socialist agenda are what we are objecting to, but you are unable to make that distinction and consider it all to be some form of personal attack. You may presently have equal access to this board (not a right) to express your opinions, but I think we could start a new thread to discuss whether or not your opinions were "as valid as anybody else's" In that discussion, your worst enemy would be that pesky word "reasonable". Who made you king with the ability to determine who's opinions are valid? And the attacks against Bush NEVER came close to the vileness and nastiness we are now seeing. Bruce, I am happy to say that I am a white male from a deep military family that does not tow the GOP/narrow minded party line. why us democrats waste our time here is starting to bother me. Our democratic opinion is shouted down like on talk radio.
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Post by jackoliver on Sept 13, 2009 10:19:43 GMT -5
It is much sadder to see nothing but negative and be obsessed with demeaning those with whom you don't agree. Based on what was said, classic logic brings one to a conclusion. Notice how all the republicans jump all over you? They all bash Acorn, as if it is the only thing that is the democratic party, 72% African American, not fact? yet they all agree blindly? You are correct, they jump all over false facts just to feed their Tea_Party, Deathers, Birther's, shouters, gun totters, etc...at all those Glenn Beck rallies. More "GOP Christian Values" huh....and Im a democratic Christian. I wonder if they would consider democratic christians as REAL Christians?
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Post by dolphie on Sept 13, 2009 11:54:17 GMT -5
It is much sadder to see nothing but negative and be obsessed with demeaning those with whom you don't agree. Based on what was said, classic logic brings one to a conclusion. You need to get a good book on logic or take a few courses in logic as what you said is _not_ classic logic.
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Post by johng on Sept 13, 2009 12:17:57 GMT -5
"What you want is to deprive people of creating wealth, success and prosperity for their families and future generations." I know that's how you have to spin our positions for political reasons, and we're used to it so go right ahead. But for me, the fact is I believe in WELL REGULATED CAPITALISM, and the right's complaints are really all about minor stuff like card check or whether to privatize Social Security, and all the noise about the sky falling (EEK! SOCIALISM!!) is just a recruiting tactic. It is actually a "Wallet Vacancy Issue" no recruiting necessary just open your wallet and send in what ever isn't there!
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Post by johng on Sept 13, 2009 12:32:01 GMT -5
Bruce, Stop with the racist card already. Do not go putting words in Rocket's mouth. He did not say what you are accusing him of saying. He said what is true... ACORN does hire people like he described. He also did not say Black= ANYTHING... he said: //WHY 72% of the Acorn employees are black. From where I come from its called Liberal slavery, ACORN hires the uneducated, ACORN hires the deprived, ACORN hires the idiot. ACORN hires blacks, fill my gas tank then ACORN (Obama) buys the black vote.\\ He is defending blacks more than you are. He is showing how ACORN abuses blacks. He also does not state that there are ONLY blacks hired by ACORN - thus idiots can be anyone at ACORN ... INCLUDING WHITES. Simple analysis is all it takes. Acorn hires blacks=Acorn hires uneducated, deprived, idiots= blacks are uneducated,deprived, idiots. It's called logic. You don't see it because you don't want to. From the"info" Rocket gave, that is the conclusion. Simple analysis leads me to the conclusion that ACORN is both Racist and Master of Slavery of the very people it employs! Sad but I have not seen one article which shines any good light on ACORN and the activities they are engaged in. There is racism involved here but not from the usual sources.
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Post by jackoliver on Sept 13, 2009 13:05:06 GMT -5
Simple analysis is all it takes. Acorn hires blacks=Acorn hires uneducated, deprived, idiots= blacks are uneducated,deprived, idiots. It's called logic. You don't see it because you don't want to. From the"info" Rocket gave, that is the conclusion. Simple analysis leads me to the conclusion that ACORN is both Racist and Master of Slavery of the very people it employs! Sad but I have not seen one article which shines any good light on ACORN and the activities they are engaged in. There is racism involved here but not from the usual sources. Any facts proving your accusation that Accorn is racist? I am in aggreement with Bruce, Accorn is just another straw man used by the GOP to demonize and lump all democrats into a negative light., No suprise. Same old GOP tactics from the Grand O'l Party,.
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Post by jackoliver on Sept 13, 2009 14:38:04 GMT -5
the title of this thread is very troublesome to many democratics americans. I sounds like something from the lates tea parties, for for congressman Joe Wilson from South Carolina.
I wish he would have shouted this during President Obama's address to congress. The look on Wilson's face when he called our President a liar says it all. such hate and anger,,,where does it come from? Very sad.
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