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Post by jdredd on Jan 2, 2021 16:49:53 GMT -5
When The Donald took the Republican nomination in 2106, my sincere hope was that it would be the worst thing that ever happened to the Party. And I believe he is still on track to be just that.
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Post by jdredd on Jan 5, 2021 14:31:37 GMT -5
A clue will be the results of today's Georgia election.
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Post by jdredd on Jan 7, 2021 3:25:23 GMT -5
After today's events, it looks like some Republicans are finally starting to back away from Trump. As I've said before, when you make a deal with the Devil, you eventually have to pay the price.
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Post by jdredd on Jan 9, 2021 14:35:42 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/politics/republican-party-trump.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage"Driven by Mr. Trump’s fictitious claims that the election had been stolen from him — and that lawmakers and Vice President Mike Pence could clinch him another four years in power during Congress’s official electoral count — the voter had come all the way from Ms. Mace’s home state of South Carolina to witness it. Now, the voter, shaking and in tears, demanded to know why Ms. Mace, a first-term congresswoman, had refused to join the effort. Calm but firm, Ms. Mace tried to explain that it was not Congress’s role to subvert the results of an election — and that to do so would defy the Constitution.“It didn’t matter what I said,” Ms. Mace said in an interview. “They didn’t believe it.” Similar scenes — sometimes painful, always unresolvable — played out again and again in Washington this week in the hours before and after a violent mob urged on by Mr. Trump stormed the Capitol, as Republican voters loyal to the president cornered Republican lawmakers who voted to certify the election results, demanding answers and promising revenge." As bad as the problems the Democrats have in their party, it looks like the Republicans have it worse.
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Post by Turk on Jan 24, 2021 10:47:26 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/politics/republican-party-trump.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage"Driven by Mr. Trump’s fictitious claims that the election had been stolen from him — and that lawmakers and Vice President Mike Pence could clinch him another four years in power during Congress’s official electoral count — the voter had come all the way from Ms. Mace’s home state of South Carolina to witness it. Now, the voter, shaking and in tears, demanded to know why Ms. Mace, a first-term congresswoman, had refused to join the effort. Calm but firm, Ms. Mace tried to explain that it was not Congress’s role to subvert the results of an election — and that to do so would defy the Constitution.“It didn’t matter what I said,” Ms. Mace said in an interview. “They didn’t believe it.” Similar scenes — sometimes painful, always unresolvable — played out again and again in Washington this week in the hours before and after a violent mob urged on by Mr. Trump stormed the Capitol, as Republican voters loyal to the president cornered Republican lawmakers who voted to certify the election results, demanding answers and promising revenge." As bad as the problems the Democrats have in their party, it looks like the Republicans have it worse. You might be right and that could be a good thing. I have never liked the two party system, hopefully a new party will be born. Dems have it all now, but it won't last long they can self-destruct faster than you can say "China Joe"
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Post by jdredd on Jan 25, 2021 16:00:46 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/politics/republican-party-trump.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage"Driven by Mr. Trump’s fictitious claims that the election had been stolen from him — and that lawmakers and Vice President Mike Pence could clinch him another four years in power during Congress’s official electoral count — the voter had come all the way from Ms. Mace’s home state of South Carolina to witness it. Now, the voter, shaking and in tears, demanded to know why Ms. Mace, a first-term congresswoman, had refused to join the effort. Calm but firm, Ms. Mace tried to explain that it was not Congress’s role to subvert the results of an election — and that to do so would defy the Constitution.“It didn’t matter what I said,” Ms. Mace said in an interview. “They didn’t believe it.” Similar scenes — sometimes painful, always unresolvable — played out again and again in Washington this week in the hours before and after a violent mob urged on by Mr. Trump stormed the Capitol, as Republican voters loyal to the president cornered Republican lawmakers who voted to certify the election results, demanding answers and promising revenge." As bad as the problems the Democrats have in their party, it looks like the Republicans have it worse. You might be right and that could be a good thing. I have never liked the two party system, hopefully a new party will be born. Dems have it all now, but it won't last long they can self-destruct faster than you can say "China Joe" That's a prediction I wouldn't bet against.
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Post by jdredd on Feb 13, 2021 19:55:29 GMT -5
So the impeachment vote proves the Republican Party is still the party of Trump. I couldn't be happier.
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Post by Turk on Feb 14, 2021 10:16:05 GMT -5
So the impeachment vote proves the Republican Party is still the party of Trump. I couldn't be happier. I'm not so sure, the republican party might be a dead party. If they don't clean house they certainly have driven the final nail in their own coffin. The is zero room for Mittens of Utah, Collins of Maine should take up lobster fishing, Murkowski is as cold as crab, Cassidy of Louisianan should stick to swatting swamp mosquitos, Burr of NC still has tar stuck to his heels, Sasses of Nebraska needs to pull the corn cob out of his backside, and finally Toomey of Pennsylvanian should attend an union meeting in a back alley. Out of the bunch Mittens turns my stomach the most.
I have wished for decades there would be a third party of substance, I'll not hold my breath, but maybe the time has come. Patriots only.
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Post by jdredd on Feb 22, 2021 0:01:04 GMT -5
www.newsmax.com/politics/gop--republicans-thirdparty/2021/02/21/id/1010908/"Former President Donald Trump does not just lead the Republican Party still, he ostensibly owns it, according to the latest Suffolk University-USA Today poll released Sunday. By a near 2-to-1 margin, Republicans would leave the GOP to follow former President Donald Trump to a third party. "We feel like Republicans don't fight enough for us, and we all see Donald Trump fighting for us as hard as he can, every single day," Brandon Keidl, 27, Republican small-business owner from Milwaukee told USA Today after being polled. "But then you have establishment Republicans who just agree with establishment Democrats and everything, and they don't ever push back." It would be a dream come true if the Trumpies started their own party. But I won't hold my breath either. I had to give up on my Green dream.
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Post by jdredd on May 12, 2021 13:17:24 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05/12/us/liz-cheney-biden"House Republicans purged Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming from their leadership ranks on Wednesday, voting to oust their No. 3 for her refusal to stay quiet about Donald J. Trump’s election lies, in a remarkable takedown of one of their own that reflected the party’s intolerance for dissent and unswerving fealty to the former president. The action came by voice vote during a brief but raucous closed-door meeting in an auditorium on Capitol Hill on Wednesday morning, after Ms. Cheney made a defiant final speech that drew boos from her colleagues. In her parting remarks, Ms. Cheney urged Republicans not to “let the former president drag us backward,” according to a person familiar with the private comments who described them on the condition of anonymity. Ms. Cheney warned that Republicans were going down a path that would bring their “destruction” and “possibly the destruction of our country,” the person said, and she added that if the party wanted a leader who would “enable and spread his destructive lies,” they should vote to remove her. Republicans did just that after greeting her speech with jeers, according to two people present, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe an internal discussion. They opted not to hold a recorded vote after Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the Republican leader, said that they should vote by voice to show unity. " Ha-ha! I couldn't have scripted a better scenario. Removing a top Congressperson because she wouldn't jump on the Trump Crazy Train.
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Post by jdredd on May 31, 2021 16:19:16 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2021/05/31/opinion/elise-stefanik-trump-republicans.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage"Ms. Stefanik’s rise — and her colleagues’ fall — is not just a parable of Trumpism. It’s a broader omen for a party struggling to reach a 21st-century electorate. She ascended by embracing a movement that is all about relitigating the past rather than welcoming the future. Now she and other new Trump loyalists in Congress are caught between their party and their generations, stuck between their immediate ambitions and the long-term trends. The G.O.P. has embraced a political form of youth sacrifice, immolating their hopes for young supporters in order to appease an ancient, vengeful power. Of course, the road to political obsolescence is littered with the bones of political analysts like me who predicted that demographics would be destiny. But Mr. Trump didn’t just devastate the G.O.P.’s fledgling class of up-and-coming talent. He also rattled the already precarious loyalty of young Republican voters; from December 2015 to March 2017, nearly half of Republicans under 30 left the party, according to Pew. Many returned, but by 2017, nearly a quarter of young conservatives had defected." Trump: The gift that keeps on giving...to the Democrats.
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Post by Turk on Jun 3, 2021 16:16:16 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2021/05/31/opinion/elise-stefanik-trump-republicans.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage"Ms. Stefanik’s rise — and her colleagues’ fall — is not just a parable of Trumpism. It’s a broader omen for a party struggling to reach a 21st-century electorate. She ascended by embracing a movement that is all about relitigating the past rather than welcoming the future. Now she and other new Trump loyalists in Congress are caught between their party and their generations, stuck between their immediate ambitions and the long-term trends. The G.O.P. has embraced a political form of youth sacrifice, immolating their hopes for young supporters in order to appease an ancient, vengeful power. Of course, the road to political obsolescence is littered with the bones of political analysts like me who predicted that demographics would be destiny. But Mr. Trump didn’t just devastate the G.O.P.’s fledgling class of up-and-coming talent. He also rattled the already precarious loyalty of young Republican voters; from December 2015 to March 2017, nearly half of Republicans under 30 left the party, according to Pew. Many returned, but by 2017, nearly a quarter of young conservatives had defected." Trump: The gift that keeps on giving...to the Democrats.
Polls are statistics and as Mark Twain inferred polls/statistics are for fools. He might not have inferred that, but that’s what I believe he meant. And I am sticking to my story even if it might have a micron of a hole in it. It is impossible to believe a brain-dead fool and a ho could win a presidential election if opposed by a Mickey/Minnie ticket let alone by a ticket that received more votes than any incumbent. Trump is best thing that has happened to the Republican party since Lincoln. Now the Republicans can clearly identify the scum, namely garbage like Mittens of Utah. I am believing Biden and Kneepads are the worst thing that ever happened to the donkey’s AND I am including Barry, and his shadow government that he’s been orchestrating with his nose ring supporters for several years. Now Barry has his puppet in office. Problem, his puppet is a blooming idiot. Next in line is a cackling sorceress that hates everything about equality and justice unless she benefits. BTW she did a great job raising a freak of a step-daughter. Now we have indisputable proof the Biden crime family has close ties to Russia, China and Ukraine. Putin is in orgasmic heaven he now controls Washington D.C. even more so than he did when Barry sold out America. I have no use for democrats. Democrats are the most hateful, biased, violent creatures since Godzilla. Had to through that line in, Godzilla wasn’t as bad.
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Post by jdredd on Jun 4, 2021 1:39:58 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2021/05/31/opinion/elise-stefanik-trump-republicans.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage"Ms. Stefanik’s rise — and her colleagues’ fall — is not just a parable of Trumpism. It’s a broader omen for a party struggling to reach a 21st-century electorate. She ascended by embracing a movement that is all about relitigating the past rather than welcoming the future. Now she and other new Trump loyalists in Congress are caught between their party and their generations, stuck between their immediate ambitions and the long-term trends. The G.O.P. has embraced a political form of youth sacrifice, immolating their hopes for young supporters in order to appease an ancient, vengeful power. Of course, the road to political obsolescence is littered with the bones of political analysts like me who predicted that demographics would be destiny. But Mr. Trump didn’t just devastate the G.O.P.’s fledgling class of up-and-coming talent. He also rattled the already precarious loyalty of young Republican voters; from December 2015 to March 2017, nearly half of Republicans under 30 left the party, according to Pew. Many returned, but by 2017, nearly a quarter of young conservatives had defected." Trump: The gift that keeps on giving...to the Democrats.
Polls are statistics and as Mark Twain inferred polls/statistics are for fools. He might not have inferred that, but that’s what I believe he meant. And I am sticking to my story even if it might have a micron of a hole in it. It is impossible to believe a brain-dead fool and a ho could win a presidential election if opposed by a Mickey/Minnie ticket let alone by a ticket that received more votes than any incumbent. Trump is best thing that has happened to the Republican party since Lincoln. Now the Republicans can clearly identify the scum, namely garbage like Mittens of Utah. I am believing Biden and Kneepads are the worst thing that ever happened to the donkey’s AND I am including Barry, and his shadow government that he’s been orchestrating with his nose ring supporters for several years. Now Barry has his puppet in office. Problem, his puppet is a blooming idiot. Next in line is a cackling sorceress that hates everything about equality and justice unless she benefits. BTW she did a great job raising a freak of a step-daughter. Now we have indisputable proof the Biden crime family has close ties to Russia, China and Ukraine. Putin is in orgasmic heaven he now controls Washington D.C. even more so than he did when Barry sold out America. I have no use for democrats. Democrats are the most hateful, biased, violent creatures since Godzilla. Had to through that line in, Godzilla wasn’t as bad. I suspect that you would answer the question "Does it matter who is President?" yes. Personally, there was stuff about Obama I hated, and there was stuff about Trump I hated, and there is stuff about Biden I hate. Doesn't seem to make much difference to me who is in the WH and you know I'm not a Democrat.
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Post by Turk on Jun 4, 2021 12:21:42 GMT -5
Polls are statistics and as Mark Twain inferred polls/statistics are for fools. He might not have inferred that, but that’s what I believe he meant. And I am sticking to my story even if it might have a micron of a hole in it. It is impossible to believe a brain-dead fool and a ho could win a presidential election if opposed by a Mickey/Minnie ticket let alone by a ticket that received more votes than any incumbent. Trump is best thing that has happened to the Republican party since Lincoln. Now the Republicans can clearly identify the scum, namely garbage like Mittens of Utah. I am believing Biden and Kneepads are the worst thing that ever happened to the donkey’s AND I am including Barry, and his shadow government that he’s been orchestrating with his nose ring supporters for several years. Now Barry has his puppet in office. Problem, his puppet is a blooming idiot. Next in line is a cackling sorceress that hates everything about equality and justice unless she benefits. BTW she did a great job raising a freak of a step-daughter. Now we have indisputable proof the Biden crime family has close ties to Russia, China and Ukraine. Putin is in orgasmic heaven he now controls Washington D.C. even more so than he did when Barry sold out America. I have no use for democrats. Democrats are the most hateful, biased, violent creatures since Godzilla. Had to through that line in, Godzilla wasn’t as bad. I suspect that you would answer the question "Does it matter who is President?" yes. Personally, there was stuff about Obama I hated, and there was stuff about Trump I hated, and there is stuff about Biden I hate. Doesn't seem to make much difference to me who is in the WH and you know I'm not a Democrat. I beleive you, you have made it clear you are not a democrat, likewise I am not a republican. Wish everyone would register as an independent that would put the pollsters in chaos.
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Post by jdredd on Oct 19, 2021 16:20:30 GMT -5
Trump may or may not be the worst thing that ever happened to the Republicans, but Biden may end up being the worst thing that ever happened to the Democrats, even worse than Carter. Not that I feel bad for a party that gave us Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Still, the environment will take a hit when the GOP is back in power. But if people are more concerned about immigration and gas prices they’ll get what they deserve.
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