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Post by bruce on Jul 19, 2009 18:54:38 GMT -5
More Hispanic response to the Republican's behavior in the Sotomayor hearings: "The Republican/conservative effort to keep Sotomayor off the bench seems like a bizarre murder-suicide plot....if there is any casualty, it will be the GOP, not her....What the Republican's haven't learned is that she is this generation's Jackie Robinson... By opposing her these past two months with inflammatory rhetoric...insuring that the GOP will remain a minority party for at least the next generation....they have failed (to oppose) her respectfully The Gop continues to send off the message that it is the party of the past, the party of greed, permanent war,hate, intolerance and racial supremacy....The failure of it's leaders to disassociate themselves from extremist views means that this is the way the GOP will be viewed by most hispanics, long after Sotomayor dons her new Supreme Court robes. SAN DIEGO LA PRENSA, from an article by Dr. Roberto Cintli Rodriguez, 7/17/09
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Post by Jack on Jul 19, 2009 19:23:10 GMT -5
More Hispanic response to the Republican's behavior in the Sotomayor hearings: "The Republican/conservative effort to keep Sotomayor off the bench seems like a bizarre murder-suicide plot....if there is any casualty, it will be the GOP, not her....What the Republican's haven't learned is that she is this generation's Jackie Robinson... By opposing her these past two months with inflammatory rhetoric...insuring that the GOP will remain a minority party for at least the next generation....they have failed (to oppose) her respectfully The Gop continues to send off the message that it is the party of the past, the party of greed, permanent war,hate, intolerance and racial supremacy....The failure of it's leaders to disassociate themselves from extremist views means that this is the way the GOP will be viewed by most hispanics, long after Sotomayor dons her new Supreme Court robes. SAN DIEGO LA PRENSA, from an article by Dr. Roberto Cintli Rodriguez, 7/17/09 Now I see where you get some of your socialist ideas. I'll do some more checking, but I'm pretty sure that I took an oath to defend the country against this guy too.
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Post by bruce on Jul 19, 2009 20:23:15 GMT -5
More Hispanic response to the Republican's behavior in the Sotomayor hearings: "The Republican/conservative effort to keep Sotomayor off the bench seems like a bizarre murder-suicide plot....if there is any casualty, it will be the GOP, not her....What the Republican's haven't learned is that she is this generation's Jackie Robinson... By opposing her these past two months with inflammatory rhetoric...insuring that the GOP will remain a minority party for at least the next generation....they have failed (to oppose) her respectfully The Gop continues to send off the message that it is the party of the past, the party of greed, permanent war,hate, intolerance and racial supremacy....The failure of it's leaders to disassociate themselves from extremist views means that this is the way the GOP will be viewed by most hispanics, long after Sotomayor dons her new Supreme Court robes. SAN DIEGO LA PRENSA, from an article by Dr. Roberto Cintli Rodriguez, 7/17/09 Now I see where you get some of your socialist ideas. I'll do some more checking, but I'm pretty sure that I took an oath to defend the country against this guy too. Nothing "socialist" about this, just an example of how the Repubs are hurting themselves wirh hispanics. La Prensa is a bilingual local paper, I never heard of Dr. Rodriguez before today. I rarely read La Prensa.
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Post by Jack on Jul 19, 2009 20:42:01 GMT -5
Now I see where you get some of your socialist ideas. I'll do some more checking, but I'm pretty sure that I took an oath to defend the country against this guy too. Nothing "socialist" about this, just an example of how the Repubs are hurting themselves wirh hispanics. La Prensa is a bilingual local paper, I never heard of Dr. Rodriguez before today. I rarely read La Prensa. And you have the nerve to rag me for the sources that I use? At least I do some level of research before I quote an article. You use an article written by a socialist and advocate for illegal aliens as an example of Republicans "hurting themselves with hispanics"? Then you claim ignorance by saying that you rarely read the paper and don't know the background of the author?
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Post by jdredd on Jul 19, 2009 21:22:15 GMT -5
More Hispanic response to the Republican's behavior in the Sotomayor hearings: "The Republican/conservative effort to keep Sotomayor off the bench seems like a bizarre murder-suicide plot....if there is any casualty, it will be the GOP, not her....What the Republican's haven't learned is that she is this generation's Jackie Robinson... By opposing her these past two months with inflammatory rhetoric...insuring that the GOP will remain a minority party for at least the next generation....they have failed (to oppose) her respectfully The Gop continues to send off the message that it is the party of the past, the party of greed, permanent war,hate, intolerance and racial supremacy....The failure of it's leaders to disassociate themselves from extremist views means that this is the way the GOP will be viewed by most hispanics, long after Sotomayor dons her new Supreme Court robes. SAN DIEGO LA PRENSA, from an article by Dr. Roberto Cintli Rodriguez, 7/17/09 Now I see where you get some of your socialist ideas. I'll do some more checking, but I'm pretty sure that I took an oath to defend the country against this guy too. I'd like to see the text of these oaths you've mentioned. The last time I looked being a socialist or even a communist was not illegal in America.
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Post by bruce on Jul 19, 2009 21:26:35 GMT -5
Nothing "socialist" about this, just an example of how the Repubs are hurting themselves wirh hispanics. La Prensa is a bilingual local paper, I never heard of Dr. Rodriguez before today. I rarely read La Prensa. And you have the nerve to rag me for the sources that I use? At least I do some level of research before I quote an article. You use an article written by a socialist and advocate for illegal aliens as an example of Republicans "hurting themselves with hispanics"? Then you claim ignorance by saying that you rarely read the paper and don't know the background of the author? How do you know he's a socialist and an advocate for illegals? You are reading things into my posts that simply aren't there. This was about how the repubs shot themselves in the foot with hispanic voters, it has nothing to do with socialism. You seem obsessed with socialism and call those you disgree with socialists. Take the chip off your shoulder and go back to being the "old" Jack. Some folks on this site can't take the truth. I gave the latest arbitron ratings for San Diego, and you all thought up all types of bogus reasons why they were wrong or meaningless. I give twoexamples of some hispanic thinking (la Prensa and La Opinion) and all you did was yell "socialist and/or disregard their opinions. One even thought La Opinion was an opinion magazine or something.It is a daily paper based in LA,with one of the largest circulalations in the country for a Spanish language publication. Calling everything socialist is I guess only right wing thought is acceptable here. The wackier the better.
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Post by Jack on Jul 19, 2009 21:43:11 GMT -5
And you have the nerve to rag me for the sources that I use? At least I do some level of research before I quote an article. You use an article written by a socialist and advocate for illegal aliens as an example of Republicans "hurting themselves with hispanics"? Then you claim ignorance by saying that you rarely read the paper and don't know the background of the author? How do you know he's a socialist and an advocate for illegals? You are reading things into my posts that simply aren't there. This was about how the repubs shot themselves in the foot with hispanic voters, it has nothing to do with socialism. You seem obsessed with socialism and call those you disgree with socialists. Take the chip off your shoulder and go back to being the "old" Jack. Oh, it was real hard to check the guy out. I did a google search and read his crap. You are famous for criticizing my sources and then dismissing their credibility because of past comments they made that were unrelated to the topic at hand. Guess you can't handle dealing with your own tactics. He's one of those "nobody's illegal" promoters of the illegal alien invasion from Mexico. You're right about the socialism thing it's really starting to be closer to communism. I got a good laugh reading you, of all people, say: "take the chip off your shoulder". Unfortunately, the old Jack was a bit too tolerant of those who promoted the destruction of this country as we know it. Besides, you admitted to never much agreeing with anything that "the old Jack" posted and you rarely engaged me in any type of discussions. So what do you have to miss?
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Post by Jack on Jul 19, 2009 21:50:58 GMT -5
Now I see where you get some of your socialist ideas. I'll do some more checking, but I'm pretty sure that I took an oath to defend the country against this guy too. I'd like to see the text of these oaths you've mentioned. The last time I looked being a socialist or even a communist was not illegal in America. "I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God." Hint: Socialists and Communist, no matter what you think, are foreign and domestic enemies.
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Post by jdredd on Jul 20, 2009 0:39:37 GMT -5
I'd like to see the text of these oaths you've mentioned. The last time I looked being a socialist or even a communist was not illegal in America. "I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God." Hint: Socialists and Communist, no matter what you think, are foreign and domestic enemies. And here I thought socialism and communism were economic policies. But as you said, it doesn't matter what I think, something I've known for many years!
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Post by bruce on Jul 20, 2009 5:57:13 GMT -5
How do you know he's a socialist and an advocate for illegals? You are reading things into my posts that simply aren't there. This was about how the repubs shot themselves in the foot with hispanic voters, it has nothing to do with socialism. You seem obsessed with socialism and call those you disgree with socialists. Take the chip off your shoulder and go back to being the "old" Jack. Oh, it was real hard to check the guy out. I did a google search and read his crap. You are famous for criticizing my sources and then dismissing their credibility because of past comments they made that were unrelated to the topic at hand. Guess you can't handle dealing with your own tactics. He's one of those "nobody's illegal" promoters of the illegal alien invasion from Mexico. You're right about the socialism thing it's really starting to be closer to communism. I got a good laugh reading you, of all people, say: "take the chip off your shoulder". Unfortunately, the old Jack was a bit too tolerant of those who promoted the destruction of this country as we know it. Besides, you admitted to never much agreeing with anything that "the old Jack" posted and you rarely engaged me in any type of discussions. So what do you have to miss? You just don't get it so this will be the last post on this non-topic. His being pro illegal immigrant is not what the article was about. It reflects the thought of many hispanics over the antics of the Repubs at the Sotomayor hearings, nothing more and nothing less. Not all hispanics but a large segment nevertheless. Denial doesn't make it go away. Anyway the back and forth in the last several days is over, it's getting old and boring and a waste of time.
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Post by EscapeHatch on Jul 20, 2009 9:30:25 GMT -5
It is the Democrat's turn at the politics of fear. They've done well at the politics of personal destruction. Examples are plentiful as they continue even to this day, eight months after the elections. This tactic is intended to reinforce fear that was fomented against what is really the majority of Americans- people that tend to be conservative in their thinking. Muslims met this weekend to learn how to do their part in turning the United States into a part of the big Caliphate under radical Islam at a Hilton Hotel in Oak Lawn, Il. While this was reported across the spectra of media, cries have already been heard that reaction to people being taught that killing anyone that gets in the way of the spread of Sharia law is nothing but racist conservatives being what they are, brutal and narrow minded racist conservatives. Fear them. I suppose it doesnt't matter who is making this claim. After all, X percent of muslims support the spread of Islam and they voted for Barrack Hussein Obama. This makes their fear factor a weapon of truth. Ah yes, they voted for Obama and that gives them license to slander Americans. Y percent of hispanic voters voted for Obama. This obviously established a mandate: "No human being is illegal". Sounds like a compassionate way of thinking, right? And one such mouthpiece of this illegal alien advocacy is this Dr. Roberto Cintli Rodriguez. In his own words: Hispanics voted nearly 2 to 1 for Obama who promised real immigration reform. Gee whiz, I wonder why. Obama also promised a tax break for ninetyfive percent of Americans. Obamanuts jumped up and down at glee with the joy in their hearts knowing, just so firmly knowing, that Obama was going to pay their rent and buy them cars! People that express their opposition to this way of thinking are just performing "antics". They can't be right, right? So comes now Sotomayor nominiated by Barrack Hussein Obama to take a seat on the Supreme Court of the United States. Some Americans are concerned that she will continue the sad madness of the paragraphs above. The root of the concern is that she will continue all this by "legislating from the bench". There are those that think that just expressing concern over this is just so much more racist conservos beating their chests in indignant rancor over a person of color siding with other persons of color, in spite of the law, spitting in face of Justice. I was one that believed that Sotomayor simply upheld the law when she decided against firefighters in Ricci v DeStefano. I allowed myself to be mislead into believing that she simply allowed discrimination because it was the laws of the city of New Haven, Ct. That turned out to be not the entire story. Sotomayor cloaked herself with Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, thus presumably protecting her decision to discriminate. The Act allows governments to presume discrimination when testing disproportionatly affects minorities. This means that if a minority can't pass a test, the test is at fault, not the person that fails the test- if AND ONLY IF that person is a minority. Nice move, Sotomayor. So we have now a confirmation process being pulled along by a twelve-driver steam locomotive called social justice. It is one from which it is impossible to jump. Those that try or even hint at doing so risk being labeled a bigot, a racist, or even worse... a conservative, who "can now be placed into the trash bin of history". It is this that puts fear in the hearts of the majority of Americans because they know that, for the time being, they are powerless to jump that train. That fear is the tool being used so effectively today by the liberal left. That is today. Tomorrow, or the day after, or the day after that, the worm may well turn again. When that happens, look to see how they use fear again to try and convince once again the easily duped into believing that they have been taken over... Peace be upon them, for now.
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Post by jackoliver on Jul 20, 2009 10:10:53 GMT -5
Jack, Extream right wing wacko extreamist are also domestic enemies of the state.
Go get em Detective Columbo ;D
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Post by Tired in CV on Jul 20, 2009 10:34:49 GMT -5
Bruce – First off tell me who, in the confirmation hearings, brutally attacked Sotomayer? No Republican did, they even mentioned that she was likely to be confirmed. They went through a process of “enlightenment” to understand past decisions she arrived at in her courts and “tested” her to see if she “might” reveal how she will make decisions in the future. She breezed through compared to some of the last Republican appointees! As I stated previously, if the Republicans gave the OK to Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Sotomayer was a shoo-in. The Republican Congressmen in the proceedings did not try to bar her from being confirmed. This is a case of dumbing down the people into believing the Republican Party was doing something they weren’t for political advantage. You got it HOOK, LINE & SINKER!
Second, you point out when others quote something from a racist, yet you have done so with Gonzales! His statement, quoted by Hatch, catches him in a subtle comment that points to his racism. “..there will no longer be such a category of illegal aliens and that all the walls along the SOUTHERN BORDER will also be dismantled…”. Why just the southern border? Yes, that is a racist statement in the way it was used. There is more to his racism, I just used that since it was conviently posted. I also find it laughable his use of terminology of “illegal human being” a twisted switch of words to make illegal aliens or illegal immigrants sound much more drastic by implying they are not human. That they are human is not the issue, it is their legal status by means of violating the law to enter this country. Such “word smithing” on a test or survey would drastically change the outcome of such test or survey! Again, a method of deception to swing opinion! And then once more, “..perhaps the notion of dividing up all human beings into legal and illegal populations can now be placed into the trash bin of history.” Use in view of the immigration status, this is pure deception. Taken literally, it sounds like he is describing the prison and non-prison populace. Is he saying to eliminate prisons? The problem when you “word smith” is that what you say may not have its intended meaning to an educated person. And THAT is what he intended to do by dumbing down the people by deception!
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Post by johng on Jul 20, 2009 14:20:31 GMT -5
There are plenty of Hispanic Business people who see the truth - the Taxes being imposed upon them as with all other business people. I expect that vote to be louder than the "community of handouts" when the time comes.
No matter how you dice Satamayor the confirmation is a foregone conclusion, she is next to sit the highest court in the land and the City of New Haven will soon have a dumbed down version of the promotions exam which is likely "selectively employed" for the minority class to keep up.
It is just reality - nothing less nothing more.
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Post by EscapeHatch on Jul 20, 2009 18:23:28 GMT -5
... the City of New Haven will soon have a dumbed down version of the promotions exam which is likely "selectively employed" for the minority class to keep up.
And this is what our country has come to... a nation that fights the fire of racism by pissing into the wind: Dumb laws enacted to evolve our society to one of complete equality by re-inventing inequality. These are the same laws that attempt to counteract the laws of nature known as "sink or swim". There are other terms that are just as applicable, but, may offend the sensitivities of those that can't won't or just plain didn't.
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