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Post by jackoliver on Oct 11, 2009 13:48:18 GMT -5
Even Republican Joe Scarborough is denouncing Glenn Beck for hatred towards our democratic President. I still dont trust Scarborough though. --------------------------------- freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2345363/postsScarborough Demands GOP Renounce Beck's 'Hatred'; Accuses Beck of Obama Assassination Hysteria Tuesday, September 22, 2009 | Kristinn Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:00:23 AM by kristinn In the first half-hour of today's show, MSNBC Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough accused Fox News Channel and radio talk show host Glenn Beck of spreading hatred and whippping up raced-based assassination hysteria against Barack Obama, demanding Republicans renounce Beck. Scarborough, a former conservative Republican congressman from Florida, attacked the libertarian Beck for spending the summer telling viewers there were FEMA detention camps being built and for saying that Obama hates "all white people." Scarborough said the "hatred" Beck is spreading would make him responsible should Obama be assassinated. Though he didn't speak explicitly of Obama's assassination, it was clear what Scarborough meant. Scarborough demanded that potential Republican presidential candidates denounce Beck, naming Mitt Romney in particular. Scarborough is not a conservative. He has gone on rants like this to appease the left for quite some time. He has to appease his bosses - they pay his salary. So he plays the game of bash the GOP... No news... half correct, Joe Scarborough is not a Right Wing Extreamist conservative, but even yet, I still dont trust him.
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Post by dolphie on Oct 11, 2009 13:49:49 GMT -5
There is a "King of the Hill" game going on between the right wing talking heads. Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and others are trying to see who can go the furthest in their attacks on the administration. Joe Scarborough is trying a different tactic, trying to be more moderate and reasonable. And that wannabe Rick Roberts has already gone over the edge but fortunately few listen to him. They don't have to compete. They each appeal to different segments of the voting constituency. Some listen to all of them. They are unearthing worrisome details - things YOU should be concerned about as well, bruce. Do you want these things to be in place when Conservatives regain the WH and Congress? The conservatives - if they follow what your party is implementing - will be able to limit what you can say and to whom. You will no longer be able to attack limbaugh, beck,hannity, etc. You will no longer be able to disagree with the Administration. Your TV shows/opinion talking heads will be replaced with conservative folks, etc. Is that what you want?
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Post by dolphie on Oct 11, 2009 13:51:45 GMT -5
Even McCain's daughter is reasonable enough to see what allot of Americans are seeing from the GOP. I applaud her ! --------------------------- jezebel.com/5334805/mccain-takes-on-malkin-for-soul-of-republican-partyMcCain Takes On Malkin For Soul Of Republican Party By LatoyaPeterson, 10:00 AM on Tue Aug 11 2009, 5,066 views (Edit, to draft, Slurp) Copy this whole post to another site Slurp cancel select site advertising consumerist deadspin defamer fleshbot gay fleshbot gawker gizmodo idolator io9 jalopnik jezebel kotaku lifehacker valleywag artists gawkershop sploid Today, in her latest Daily Beast piece, Meghan McCain blasts the divisiveness of Michelle Malkin, explaining that "[Republicans] will not get anywhere by continuing to sell hate and fear." Outside of hatemongering, is there anything worth saving in the GOP? This is a question I've been wrestling with since the last election cycle showed an implosion of the Republican party. While a lot of my early mentors leaned a bit right, the Republicans have shown less and less of a desire to be the party of small government and fiscal responsibility, and more of an inclination to embrace as much hatred and bigotry that they can find. As I laughed watching the GOP blatantly pander by promoting Michael Steele (probably trying to trade on some of that "Barack the Magic Negro" sparkle they thought was falling from Obama), and cheered when Christopher S. Buckley decamped from the GOP, I still felt a twinge of sadness. I strongly believe that we need at least two viable political parties to have a constructive dialogue about governance in this country, and that has not been the case for a very long time. Meghan McCain seems to agree. Through her blog and her columns on the Daily Beast, McCain has been trying to steer the party away from the demagogues and back toward relevance. She strongly calls out pundits like Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter who trade in intolerance: To make matters worse, certain individuals continue to perpetuate negative stereotypes about Republicans. Especially Republican women. Who do I feel is the biggest culprit? Ann Coulter. I straight up don't understand this woman or her popularity. I find her offensive, radical, insulting, and confusing all at the same time. McCain is right to express bafflement - the personas that Coulter and Malkin use to promote themselves and their work are inherently sensationalized, valuing sound bytes and screaming over thoughtful, reasoned arguments. Sometimes, the rhetoric is so ridiculous, I start to think that maybe Ann Coulter is just making all of this up: Anyone with half a brain knows that McCain is not a Conservative and he does not represent the GOP. He is a Dem in disguise. His daughter has been off target for some time now. I do not pay attention to either - she is a little girl supporting her daddy. No matter how wrong he is.
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Post by dolphie on Oct 11, 2009 13:53:34 GMT -5
you are correct Dolphie. the real issues of the day for the GOP is shooting at targets with democratic candidates initials on them. I stand corrected. So you are accusing the GOP of being assassins? Interesting rhetoric from the far left wing of conspiracy theorists. Do you have documentation to support your accusations?
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Post by dolphie on Oct 11, 2009 13:56:24 GMT -5
I didnt think you would defend a democrat when being attacked is a sexist manner. The GOP has more egg on its face and the GOP appologists continue to defend bad behavior. The ones who exhibit sexism compose the Democratic party. Since you are not a female, you really do not comprehend what sexism consists of. Trust me, what the Dem party and those misinformed from the article above, THEY are the sexists. From now on - the Speaker position may be withheld from females as they, according to the above, they start crying and cannot take the standard heat the Speaker receives
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Post by dolphie on Oct 11, 2009 13:58:08 GMT -5
To many people - Joe is a hero. Yet, Joe had more character than the Democrat wacko or Rangel or any of the others. Joe Wilson apologized to BO personally. I do not see the Dems standing with dignity. HERO? disgracing the US HOuse of Reps for the world to see? More like he's an embarrasment. Don't pretend such indignation - that is farcical in and of itself. There was no disgrace - the man spoke his piece. The rules of diplomacy were pushed aside during the Bush Administration by your Dems. Why did you not voice outrage then?
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Post by IrishMike on Oct 11, 2009 13:59:43 GMT -5
The GOP is even BANNING its own, in TEXAS, is this a suprise? Read below, the GOP is calling the log cabins folks a HATE group. Why? ---------------------------------- www.lcrga.com/news/Robert-Black-Texas-Republican/98060801.shtmlTexas GOP Bans Log Cabin Republicans Party Spokesman Robert Black Compares Delegates to KKK, Child Molestors June 8, 1998 (WASHINGTON, DC) – The Republican Party of Texas has prohibited the Log Cabin Republicans of Texas, represented by over 50 openly gay, elected GOP delegates and alternates, from having an official presence at the state GOP convention in Fort Worth this weekend, and has publicly compared the organization to the Ku Klux Klan and to child molestors in a series of scathing official public statements. "The Republican Party is not going to allow individuals like the Log Cabins or the KKK or any other hate group in direct conflict withour philosophy a forum to spread their hateful message," said Texas GOP spokesman Robert Black to the Associated Press on June 6. In a Dallas Morning News article on June 4, Black also compared Log Cabin Republicans to the North American Man/Boy Love Association, a pedophile organization. Wow! Can't find new articles JO? You are digging back to 1998? Sounds like you are having a bad day today. As far as the article itself, you are not GOP so what does it matter to you what GOP stands for or encompasses? Apparently, your party already stands side by side with NAMBLA, Sexual deviants and Perverts. Maybe the GOP wants to let the spot shine on your party in that respect as they take on the real issues of the day? JO,only goes so far back in history,maybe he should go back a little further and he'll see that the Democrats was the KKK party and as late as 1980 Tom Metzger of W.A.R. ran for congress as a Democrat.Now the Democratic party is the party of low morales,entitlements,and socialism,they just happen to drop the racism from their platform to have a better chance at being elected.They now are covert racist espousing that the minority can,t move ahead in society without them as their crutch.
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Post by dolphie on Oct 11, 2009 14:08:18 GMT -5
Wow! Can't find new articles JO? You are digging back to 1998? Sounds like you are having a bad day today. As far as the article itself, you are not GOP so what does it matter to you what GOP stands for or encompasses? Apparently, your party already stands side by side with NAMBLA, Sexual deviants and Perverts. Maybe the GOP wants to let the spot shine on your party in that respect as they take on the real issues of the day? JO,only goes so far back in history,maybe he should go back a little further and he'll see that the Democrats was the KKK party and as late as 1980 Tom Metzger of W.A.R. ran for congress as a Democrat.Now the Democratic party is the party of low morales,entitlements,and socialism,they just happen to drop the racism from their platform to have a better chance at being elected.They now are covert racist espousing that the minority can,t move ahead in society without them as their crutch. Excellent points, IrishMike. Thank you for joining in. Why he chooses to bounce onto the boards spewing hate on Sundays is beyond me.
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Post by jackoliver on Oct 11, 2009 14:14:17 GMT -5
you are correct Dolphie. the real issues of the day for the GOP is shooting at targets with democratic candidates initials on them. I stand corrected. So you are accusing the GOP of being assassins? Interesting rhetoric from the far left wing of conspiracy theorists. Do you have documentation to support your accusations? Again I stand corrected by dolphie. YOu are right, the GOP candidate shooting at a target of his FEMALE democratic opponents initials, (whom is fighting off cancer), is not assasin like behavior. YOu are correct dolphie, he is more like the easter bunny or mother teresa
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Post by jackoliver on Oct 11, 2009 14:16:07 GMT -5
There is a "King of the Hill" game going on between the right wing talking heads. Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and others are trying to see who can go the furthest in their attacks on the administration. Joe Scarborough is trying a different tactic, trying to be more moderate and reasonable. And that wannabe Rick Roberts has already gone over the edge but fortunately few listen to him. They don't have to compete. They each appeal to different segments of the voting constituency. Some listen to all of them. They are unearthing worrisome details - things YOU should be concerned about as well, bruce. Do you want these things to be in place when Conservatives regain the WH and Congress? The conservatives - if they follow what your party is implementing - will be able to limit what you can say and to whom. You will no longer be able to attack limbaugh, beck,hannity, etc. You will no longer be able to disagree with the Administration. Your TV shows/opinion talking heads will be replaced with conservative folks, etc. Is that what you want? the only thing to fear is fear itself, not these right wing scare tactics... what you are claiming will never happen no matter how many times talk radio repeats this falsehood.
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Post by jackoliver on Oct 11, 2009 14:18:02 GMT -5
Even McCain's daughter is reasonable enough to see what allot of Americans are seeing from the GOP. I applaud her ! --------------------------- jezebel.com/5334805/mccain-takes-on-malkin-for-soul-of-republican-partyMcCain Takes On Malkin For Soul Of Republican Party By LatoyaPeterson, 10:00 AM on Tue Aug 11 2009, 5,066 views (Edit, to draft, Slurp) Copy this whole post to another site Slurp cancel select site advertising consumerist deadspin defamer fleshbot gay fleshbot gawker gizmodo idolator io9 jalopnik jezebel kotaku lifehacker valleywag artists gawkershop sploid Today, in her latest Daily Beast piece, Meghan McCain blasts the divisiveness of Michelle Malkin, explaining that "[Republicans] will not get anywhere by continuing to sell hate and fear." Outside of hatemongering, is there anything worth saving in the GOP? This is a question I've been wrestling with since the last election cycle showed an implosion of the Republican party. While a lot of my early mentors leaned a bit right, the Republicans have shown less and less of a desire to be the party of small government and fiscal responsibility, and more of an inclination to embrace as much hatred and bigotry that they can find. As I laughed watching the GOP blatantly pander by promoting Michael Steele (probably trying to trade on some of that "Barack the Magic Negro" sparkle they thought was falling from Obama), and cheered when Christopher S. Buckley decamped from the GOP, I still felt a twinge of sadness. I strongly believe that we need at least two viable political parties to have a constructive dialogue about governance in this country, and that has not been the case for a very long time. Meghan McCain seems to agree. Through her blog and her columns on the Daily Beast, McCain has been trying to steer the party away from the demagogues and back toward relevance. She strongly calls out pundits like Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter who trade in intolerance: To make matters worse, certain individuals continue to perpetuate negative stereotypes about Republicans. Especially Republican women. Who do I feel is the biggest culprit? Ann Coulter. I straight up don't understand this woman or her popularity. I find her offensive, radical, insulting, and confusing all at the same time. McCain is right to express bafflement - the personas that Coulter and Malkin use to promote themselves and their work are inherently sensationalized, valuing sound bytes and screaming over thoughtful, reasoned arguments. Sometimes, the rhetoric is so ridiculous, I start to think that maybe Ann Coulter is just making all of this up: Anyone with half a brain knows that McCain is not a Conservative and he does not represent the GOP. He is a Dem in disguise. His daughter has been off target for some time now. I do not pay attention to either - she is a little girl supporting her daddy. No matter how wrong he is. Mccain not a conservative? He ran as president for the GOP and you all voted for him? He may not be a right wing extreamist, but he ran for president for your party and all you folks voted for him. this is becoming comic...
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Post by IrishMike on Oct 11, 2009 14:19:26 GMT -5
Good observation Dolphie.
I personally try to comment in the same way I would if we were sitting at a coffee shop debating our differences.I find most blog quite differently than they would if we were face to face.Not that I'm some kind of stud,but I find in person people are very courteous to me and debate me with logic and not through intimidation.
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Post by jackoliver on Oct 11, 2009 14:20:19 GMT -5
JO,only goes so far back in history,maybe he should go back a little further and he'll see that the Democrats was the KKK party and as late as 1980 Tom Metzger of W.A.R. ran for congress as a Democrat.Now the Democratic party is the party of low morales,entitlements,and socialism,they just happen to drop the racism from their platform to have a better chance at being elected.They now are covert racist espousing that the minority can,t move ahead in society without them as their crutch. Excellent points, IrishMike. Thank you for joining in. Why he chooses to bounce onto the boards spewing hate on Sundays is beyond me. spewing hate by posting republicans against the current GOP style? Im just the messenger. Just you dont like what Scarborough, Mccain said or you dont like that I posted the GOP candidate shooting at a democratic opponents initials,,,,that is all my fault? I dont think so. no hate here, just posting what is on the news.
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Post by jackoliver on Oct 11, 2009 14:23:39 GMT -5
Even Republican Joe Scarborough is denouncing Glenn Beck for hatred towards our democratic President. I still dont trust Scarborough though. --------------------------------- freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2345363/postsScarborough Demands GOP Renounce Beck's 'Hatred'; Accuses Beck of Obama Assassination Hysteria Tuesday, September 22, 2009 | Kristinn Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:00:23 AM by kristinn In the first half-hour of today's show, MSNBC Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough accused Fox News Channel and radio talk show host Glenn Beck of spreading hatred and whippping up raced-based assassination hysteria against Barack Obama, demanding Republicans renounce Beck. Scarborough, a former conservative Republican congressman from Florida, attacked the libertarian Beck for spending the summer telling viewers there were FEMA detention camps being built and for saying that Obama hates "all white people." Scarborough said the "hatred" Beck is spreading would make him responsible should Obama be assassinated. Though he didn't speak explicitly of Obama's assassination, it was clear what Scarborough meant. Scarborough demanded that potential Republican presidential candidates denounce Beck, naming Mitt Romney in particular. Scarborough is not a conservative. He has gone on rants like this to appease the left for quite some time. He has to appease his bosses - they pay his salary. So he plays the game of bash the GOP... No news... I cant wait to email Scarborough to tell him some republicans in san diego dont think he is a conservative, especialy when he bashes GOP attack dog Glenn Beck.
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Post by Turk on Oct 11, 2009 14:38:43 GMT -5
I just have a moment after reading some of the wild ass accusation I had to throw in my two cents. Tearing down one party severs zero purpose unless of course the person represents the party of purity. And if your party is not the purity party JO then much of what you have written is either foolish or just plain baiting.
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