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Post by jackoliver on Jan 12, 2009 18:55:02 GMT -5
Jack, I know youve said your independent before, but you stance appears more dem to me. Thats fine . I like obamas demeanor but fear his approach to solving the financial mess. In fairness I believe any candidate would do similar to what he is stating . Its kinda a roosevelt approach to the depression When roosevelt took on the depression we were still on a gold standard so currency was strong. We inflated the dollar but started so strong it was doable. Now our currency only represents debt, no assets and is so fragile to the perception of its value at home and abroad. We are putting ourself in a posistion where a foreign government could crash our dollar. There seems to be a ripple effect that might protect us as every one is effected by our economy, but being conservastive I dont like being fragile and think russia or china or the arabs could crash our economy on a whim. I believe spending will be a short term fix and a real crash will come and probably is unstoppable anymore. Im sorry my middle of the road stances are hard to label. I would say Im a liberal conservative or a conservative liberal. I like most dem social stance, and low taxes for the middle class, strong defense, I wont bore you. I do agree with you that America has to get strong financialy because what good is our strongest millitary in the world if americans are in poverty? Lets just hope and pray Obama and THE REST OF CONGRESS, DEMS AND GOP get it together for the sake of our country. the sean Hate-netys and Prck Roberts of the world can go shut up and let america unite for the sake of America, IMO
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Post by CM on Jan 12, 2009 19:12:15 GMT -5
Jack Oliver, I want some of that stuff you've been smoking. I've been read 100's perhaps 1000's of your post, I can not remember one time you making a statement right of center. I'll reload my bong and reread what you just said. ;D
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Post by jackoliver on Jan 13, 2009 13:49:04 GMT -5
some of Jack Oliver's right of center stances,
strong military defense.
low taxes for all americans.
No welfare for corporations.
holding parents accountable for kids grades,
gun rights for all legal americans.
close the fking border.-let mexico fix their own problems through revolution.
IMPRISSON ANYONE WHO HIRES UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS-EVERYONE ONE OF THEM. THEY ARE THE PROBLEM !!! ( I am not anti immigrant, allot of my families are minorities- I just want to protect the illegals from being abused and taken advantage of by us and cheap labor. If they have to stay in Mexico, then they will have to fix it also. Im sick of americans blaming the poor ilegals for Americas problems, we freaking let them in and exploit the cheap labor, then at election time we blame them for everything, that is bull shit .)
child molestors should be castrated.
Cop killers get automatic death penalty.
send all crooked politicians to jail, no matter what party.
I could go on and on CM.
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Post by daleescondido on Jan 13, 2009 16:44:01 GMT -5
some of Jack Oliver's right of center stances, strong military defense. low taxes for all americans. No welfare for corporations. holding parents accountable for kids grades, gun rights for all legal americans. close the fking border.-let mexico fix their own problems through revolution. IMPRISSON ANYONE WHO HIRES UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS-EVERYONE ONE OF THEM. THEY ARE THE PROBLEM !!! ( I am not anti immigrant, allot of my families are minorities- I just want to protect the illegals from being abused and taken advantage of by us and cheap labor. If they have to stay in Mexico, then they will have to fix it also. Im sick of americans blaming the poor ilegals for Americas problems, we freaking let them in and exploit the cheap labor, then at election time we blame them for everything, that is bull shit .) child molestors should be castrated. Cop killers get automatic death penalty. send all crooked politicians to jail, no matter what party. I could go on and on CM. Thats pretty impressive Jack, I agree 100%
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Post by CM on Jan 13, 2009 17:16:34 GMT -5
There is a God and Jack Oliver is human, you hit one out of the park, I concur with Dale.
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Post by jackoliver on Jan 13, 2009 17:33:48 GMT -5
:)WOW !!! you guys flatter me It looks like I just proved evolution. I evovled from a rodent rat to a humane !! It looks like Obama will be a centrist as well....lets hope and pray. What is funny and hypocritical to me is the GOP. They use the illegals as a scape goat and do nothing about the problem. I realy , realy do care for the illegal immigrants like I stated before. they are being used by the US. Cheap labor, and then get blamed during every election for America's problems, when America is letting them in and giving them jobs. In the mean time , Mexico does not fix their own problems and people keep coming over here. Im am certain Mexico loves their people coming to the US, that way no one gets fed up enough to fix their own country. so every time Prk Roberts and Hate-nety talk about illegals, I AT LEAST KNOW THEY ARE FULL OF FREAKING SHIT. soory for the caps and curse word
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Post by bruce on Jan 13, 2009 18:50:55 GMT -5
The Republican party likes illegals as a source of cheap labor,to lower the pay of blue collar workers,and as union busters.The Democrats see them as a new,malleable voting bloc in time. I recall a cartoon where a lady is telling her Hispanic maid"You'll have to go back to Mexico,but first mop the floor,do the dishes,and change the baby".
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Post by daleescondido on Jan 13, 2009 20:39:26 GMT -5
The Republican party likes illegals as a source of cheap labor,to lower the pay of blue collar workers,and as union busters.The Democrats see them as a new,malleable voting bloc in time. I recall a cartoon where a lady is telling her Hispanic maid"You'll have to go back to Mexico,but first mop the floor,do the dishes,and change the baby". I felt similar about this until I tried to find seven employees to get an account I wanted. I am a three person business, just a hobby shop really but had an opportunity to get a large casino account. I needed seven more employees to do this. I ran adds in the la times and the north county paper and the local recycler. I had sixty responses a day and only a few even spoke english reasonably well. After two months I gave up. Maybe most people dont want factory work but it pays well with all the benefits. Yet I see starbucks and retail stores staffed fully all the time
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Post by ♥Fem Dem♥ on Jan 25, 2009 0:44:04 GMT -5
I said BYE BYE BUSHY 20 years ago
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Post by tpfkalarry on Jan 25, 2009 15:38:29 GMT -5
Who would have guessed...............
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Post by ♥Fem Dem♥ on Jan 26, 2009 20:59:17 GMT -5
Who would have guessed............... Lordy, lordy, lordy, the mussel man without the Sunday paper taking a dump understood, mmmmmmmmm Think hard, think long
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Post by VOR on Jan 26, 2009 21:30:36 GMT -5
Let's hope we have seen the last of the Bushs, our economy and military can't stand a Jeb coming around.
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Post by jackoliver on Jan 27, 2009 13:09:39 GMT -5
Let's hope we have seen the last of the Bushs, our economy and military can't stand a Jeb coming around. VOR my man, let's not give the GOP any ideas. except how about Palin in 2012? Now that I can stomach....maybe Joe the Plumber for VP?
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Post by bruce on Jan 27, 2009 19:33:55 GMT -5
Sarah Palin opens a PAC?Good Grief.
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Post by jackoliver on Jan 27, 2009 20:05:46 GMT -5
Bruce, excuse my ignorance (suprise who would have thought ;D)
does PAC mean political action commitee?
If that is true, There is a GOD !!!!
Go Sarah Palin in 2012 !!!!! America's Pitbulls need you !!!!
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