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Post by dj on Jul 5, 2009 22:26:57 GMT -5
I still don't get all the complaints about character assassination. Sure, yes, there were the nutballs who claimed her kid was really her kid's kid, but certainly no more than the nutballs who said Obama was born in Kenya. (Or that Obama pals around with terrorists. Oh wait, that was HER.)
Remember, Palin was running for VICE-PRESIDENT. She didn't lose the election because of "character assassination", because honestly SHE didn't lose the election. No presidential election is decided based on the vice-presidential candidates. Example: Dan Quayle.
He was ridiculed just as viciously as Palin. However, Bush won, and Quayle had to live with his labels for four years. Quayle couldn't spell potato, and Palin couldn't name a single magazine or paper she ever read. These things happen. And Biden was an insider and Obama was just a community organizer. It's how politics goes.
However, ridiculing someone's positions, or lack thereof, or pointing out what you consider to be hypocrisy or naivete or contrived folksiness or a general aversion to reading magazines... is criticism. Not "character assassination". And reporting her shopping spree and bringing up Troopergate, likewise, criticism, not character assassination.
I don't think that anyone making the assertion that Obama didn't have any real executive experience was accused of "character assassination". And saying Palin didn't have what it took to be in DC with her resume, was equally not character assassination.
If she has been called a prostitute or something like that, there's your definition of "character assassination".
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Post by Turk on Jul 5, 2009 22:41:42 GMT -5
The baseball player who was part of the joke concerning Palin's daughter! The baseball player who the joke was actually about. ;-) You gotta be kidding. DJ you need an enormous shoe horn to make that one fit. Letterman is obsessed with Palin not to mention the man (or lack of one) has made numerous misogynist jokes.
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Post by dj on Jul 6, 2009 2:03:20 GMT -5
The baseball player who the joke was actually about. ;-) You gotta be kidding. DJ you need an enormous shoe horn to make that one fit. Letterman is obsessed with Palin not to mention the man (or lack of one) has made numerous misogynist jokes. turk, CMurk, turCM ;-) Letterman has been joking about Rodriguez for YEARS, about his philandering and his steroid use. He just had a Top Ten all about Rodriguez alone in February. Saying that Rodriguez "knocked up" anyone would be par for the course for Letterman; it just happened to dovetail nicely with his running barrage of Palin jokes. So, no, I'm not shoehorning anything. When I saw the joke it was about Alex Rodriquez. Here's a question for you. Last Fall, Jay Leno said: "Governor Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. And you thought John Edwards was in trouble before! Now he has really done it."So, who was the joke about? And why didn't Leno get the crap beat out of him over it like Letterman? And "Sarah Palin is going to drop the first puck at the Philadelphia Flyers hockey game. Then Palin will spend the rest of the game trying to keep the hockey players out of her daughter's penalty box."That was Conan O'Brian. Why no national scandal?? By the way, both those cracks were make when Bristol was still 17. A media watchdog group counted something like 40 to 50 jokes between Leno, Letterman, Stewart, and O'Brian about Bristol Palin between last summer and this spring, including the two I posted above. This isn't counting the limitless other outlets making wisecracks about her. Where was the outrage?? I think it was much ado about nothing. The ONLY reason this got big is because the Palins claimed the joke was about the younger daughter and said it was a rape joke. But those other jokes weren't? As DL said, THESE ARE JUST JOKES.
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Post by bruce on Jul 6, 2009 6:28:32 GMT -5
Palin supporters complain about people making jokes about her son with Down's Syndrome. Talk show host Bill Press researched it and could find no record of any comedian, liberal talk show host, columnist, left wing blog, TV commentator, etc who ever said anything about her son. Some did question her decision to have the child, but those comments was aimed at her, not her son. Whether individuals on a web site made comments that were out of line is true, but the comments made by individuals about the president and family far outpace those made about Trig Palin.
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Post by bruce on Jul 6, 2009 6:52:12 GMT -5
One further note, why did she choose the notorious "dead zone", on the cusp off a holiday weekend, to make her announcement? Normally this is done for "damage control".
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Post by Turk on Jul 6, 2009 8:57:30 GMT -5
Palin supporters complain about people making jokes about her son with Down's Syndrome. Talk show host Bill Press researched it and could find no record of any comedian, liberal talk show host, columnist, left wing blog, TV commentator, etc who ever said anything about her son. Some did question her decision to have the child, but those comments was aimed at her, not her son. Whether individuals on a web site made comments that were out of line is true, but the comments made by individuals about the president and family far outpace those made about Trig Palin. I don’t know who Bill Press is but apparently he’s not very bright or perhaps just plain stupid. I’ve found over 120,000 hits, attacking Trig Palin a quick scan most appeared to be from the left web sites. In contrast I did not find a single attack on Malia or Sasha Obama. It has to be a new low attacking a special needs child.
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Post by Turk on Jul 6, 2009 9:08:30 GMT -5
If she has been called a prostitute or something like that, there's your definition of "character assassination". Sarah Palin hits: Trailer Trash 53,000 Prostitute 646,000 Obviously some links are bogus, but I followed a few even a CNN reporter called her a prostitute. Paul Begala, the architect of several Democratic election campaigns including Bill Clinton’s, and now a CNN commentator, likens Sarah Palin to a prostitute.
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Post by jackoliver on Jul 6, 2009 10:34:39 GMT -5
I remember horrible attacks on President Obama and Michele before the election.
Racial pokes about watermelons on the white house lawn and pictures doctored up to make poor Michele look like an animal, etc. (disgustingly racist).
Fake slanders about bogus Kenyan birthcertificates, being muslim,,,palling around with terrorists?
If Sarah and her supporters cant take the political heat,, they should all stay in cool Alaska.
and forget what Hannity and Rush and Rick Roberts say all day..
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Post by Rocket on Jul 6, 2009 10:42:19 GMT -5
I remember horrible attacks on President Obama and Michele before the election. Racial pokes about watermelons on the white house lawn and pictures doctored up to make poor Michele look like an animal, etc. (disgustingly racist). Fake slanders about bogus Kenyan birthcertificates, being muslim,,,palling around with terrorists? If Sarah and her supporters cant take the political heat,, they should all stay in cool Alaska. and forget what Hannity and Rush and Rick Roberts say all day.. You can’t follow a discussion, liberal attacks on the children, wake up.
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Post by jackoliver on Jul 6, 2009 10:51:02 GMT -5
I remember horrible attacks on President Obama and Michele before the election. Racial pokes about watermelons on the white house lawn and pictures doctored up to make poor Michele look like an animal, etc. (disgustingly racist). Fake slanders about bogus Kenyan birthcertificates, being muslim,,,palling around with terrorists? If Sarah and her supporters cant take the political heat,, they should all stay in cool Alaska. and forget what Hannity and Rush and Rick Roberts say all day.. You can’t follow a discussion, liberal attacks on the children, wake up. I never heard any "LIBERAL ATTACKS ON THE CHILDREN", nor would I condon them. I know your not making the point that attacks on dems like I have mentioned above are OK? But that's your opinion and right to distinguish between libs actions and GOP actions. I hold them both equaly accountable, Im funny that way.
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Post by Turk on Jul 6, 2009 11:01:19 GMT -5
Like Rocket said you are not following scroll up a few post 120,000 attacks on Trig Palin
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Post by Turk on Jul 6, 2009 11:05:28 GMT -5
" Sarah Palin not under FBI investigation in death of Michael Jackson "The initial autopsy report on Michael Jackson came on Friday, June 26, 2009, from the spokesman for the Los Angeles County coroner's office: His finding's were not conclusive however he did make the following statement: "The coroner has concluded the autopsy for Mr. Michael Jackson. The cause of death has not yet been found to be conclusive. However there was no evidence what so ever that Sarah Palin or her Husband or her Daughter Bristel had any thing to do with this" But this could be the REAL reason why Sarah Palin quit as Governor. Further, "Michael Jackson had been given an injection of Demerol before he collapsed. "Shortly after taking the Demerol, he started to experience slow, shallow breathing. His breathing gradually got slower and slower until it stopped" He added: " At the time that Mr. Jackson was administered this drug Sarah Palin had left the room, and her alibi was investigated and proven to hold. However the National Enquirer seems to have a witness that will swear Sarah and her Husband Todd were seen running out of the Hotel room minutes after Jackson stopped doing his famous Moonwalk dance with Bubbles the Chimp. The untimely passing of Michael Jackson has sparked new interest in the whereabouts of the furry little beast belonging to King of Pop’s menagerie.. On a side note, there has been an outrage from the left over Rush Limbaugh's statement blaming the Obama Administration for the death of Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson was know to have thought that he feared someone was trying to kill him shortly before he died. Will the left tie this to the Bush administration? Did an injection of painkiller's kill Michael Jackson? Did Psychiatric Drugs Kill Michael Jackson, Did George W. Bush kill Michael Jackson? According to The Daily KOS, No one really knows where George Bush was at the exact time of Jackson's death! ourworldasweseeit.blogspot.com/
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Post by jackoliver on Jul 6, 2009 11:07:43 GMT -5
Like Rocket said you are not following scroll up a few post 120,000 attacks on Trig Palin CM I did follow, I have not seen them, if they do exist, I dont condon them.
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Post by johng on Jul 6, 2009 13:48:23 GMT -5
And some here seem surprised that all Politicians are Prostitutes! Send all indictments to me at I could care less.com
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Post by jackoliver on Jul 6, 2009 14:10:31 GMT -5
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