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Post by Tired in CV on Jun 7, 2009 22:46:24 GMT -5
Since the turnout was very high, reporters reported people going in and out as normal, no one was stopped, it can be assumed, along with the fact no one complained, that no one one was deterred. The nightstick was a violation; the police came, asked that the man leave, which he did. The police were called by a Republican poll watcher from a different precinct who came to the precinct in question. This was the only complaint lodged, he was not a voter in the precinct. He came there, apparently, to create an issue. The AG rightfully dropped the case. There was no case. Your use of ASSUMED and APPARENTLY do not lead to much support of your statements. I could care less if this gets attached to Obama or not. My concern is that somebody had violated the law by openly handling a weapon (nightstick) in the polling place, as defined by law! That should not be simply dismissed! I just want a very critical law to be enforced. Not to do so leads to a very serious precedent! The AG RIGHTFULLY (?) dropped the case. A violation of brandishing a weapon in the polling place occured! JUST DISMISS THE LAW? Tell me exactly what YOU think would have happened if some KKK members were to stand out there with nightsticks visible in their hands? IS IT ANY DIFFERENT? NO! If you would stop trying to modifying what is typed here on this blog there would be a whole lot less conflict! YOU are trying to make this a PARTISAN issue! You are so defensive of Obama that even when it isn't an issue about him, you still take a defensive stance as if it is! WAKE UP!
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Post by bruce on Jun 8, 2009 6:43:01 GMT -5
This" incident" happened outside a polling place in a virtually 100% black district. If they had appeared in a suburban context, it would be intimidation. As for the KKK, if they had appeared in this particular area, it would have been intimidation. That is the difference.
Why did the city police simply ask the man with the nightstick to leave rather than arrest him? Or cite him?
An earlier blog, johng, implied Obama was behind this, I was responding to that. This is a non-issue, and I'm tired of repeating myself. In fact the complaintant was not a voter nor a resident of the area. He wasn't an aggrieved party and had no standing. According to KYW , most voters they interviewed thought the two men were security. Some of us are used to seeing security guards with weapons. In context, it was a nothing incident. Why you all insist on blowing this up is beyond me.
A side note, some time ago you used Hal Turner as a reference regarding China and "taking over" US territory. He was arrested Friday for threatening two Connecticut lawmakers and was planning to give out their residential addresses so someone could "take them out".
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Post by johng on Jun 8, 2009 15:52:39 GMT -5
This" incident" happened outside a polling place in a virtually 100% black district. If they had appeared in a suburban context, it would be intimidation. As for the KKK, if they had appeared in this particular area, it would have been intimidation. That is the difference. Why did the city police simply ask the man with the nightstick to leave rather than arrest him? Or cite him? An earlier blog, johng, implied Obama was behind this, I was responding to that. This is a non-issue, and I'm tired of repeating myself. In fact the complaintant was not a voter nor a resident of the area. He wasn't an aggrieved party and had no standing. According to KYW , most voters they interviewed thought the two men were security. Some of us are used to seeing security guards with weapons. In context, it was a nothing incident. Why you all insist on blowing this up is beyond me. Because the Complaintant is American, we are American and regardless of the "Neighborhood" it is the Foundation of Freedom, A Polling Place where America Votes" free of intimidation and dominance! Our Armed forces (United nations) have been assigned with peril to protect the right of people to cast their votes in the name of "Democracy" and we have American citizens like yourself telling us how insignificant the issue is! The behavior is dispictable and to condon is even worse! What a disgrace plain and simple!
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Post by Tired in CV on Jun 8, 2009 16:12:45 GMT -5
A side note, some time ago you used Hal Turner as a reference regarding China and "taking over" US territory. He was arrested Friday for threatening two Connecticut lawmakers and was planning to give out their residential addresses so someone could "take them out". Reread my statement about Hal Turner, he was just a pick out of a list of web sites containing that same information. I even SUGGESTED that you go to the web sites and PICK your own to read. I do not/did not know anything about him. You have issues with him, fine. Don't take issue with me about him, I was only posting about a topic (not the person) that had many many web sites stating the SAME information. Sometimes when an item is so prevalent on the web sites it is sometimes difficult to accertain that it isn't true. This is the second time you have tried to raise issue with me because of Turner. I have NEVER shown any support for Turner other than a ONE TIME posting of information he had posted in a random pick of hundereds of web sites. I suppose I have upset your cart so you use him against me the way you use the birth certificate with all of us. ONLY YOU talk about it! Your post about the why the individual with a nightstick was allowed to go free is bogus! He was withing the BOUNDARIES of the POLLING PLACE with a WEAPON. A VIOLATION DID OCCUR. Failure to prosecute such act is, in itself, irresponsible and sets a precedent for future actions. This country has put a stop to that kind of thing years ago and rightfully so! Do you really want to return to it? Our participation throughout the world in elections work extremely hard to insure this SAME THING DOES NOT OCCUR! And you want to say that this was OK! Again, I am not politcizing this as a partisan issue. The man brandishing a nightclub should be prosecuted. The other person there did not brandish a weapon and I don't know if he had one in possession. I, therefore, don't even have an issue with him, JUST the one who BRANDISHED THE WEAPON (nightstick). A guard or not THAT is intimidation when the nightstick is in hand! Police officers are instructed NOT to draw their weapons (including other than their firearm) unless their is a STRONG PROBABILITY for it to be used, i.e. trouble is at hand.
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Post by jackoliver on Jun 8, 2009 16:22:06 GMT -5
hey guys, if your upset about this, be upset at the police for not doing anything. Your acusations and name calling is misdirected.
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Post by johng on Jun 8, 2009 16:34:46 GMT -5
JD,
Quite the Topic Drift but in the end it answers your question - YES these baby boomers blew it! The rest of us will continue to fight for our Freedom to vote without such antics!
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Post by bruce on Jun 8, 2009 17:01:32 GMT -5
We've spent 4 ore 5 days wasting time on this non issue. This is the last time I'm going to post on this topic. There's nothing more to say.
Regarding Turner, I understand that you had no idea who he was. To say that I have issues with him is a gross understatement. He has continually threatened violence and advocated assasination of judges, congressmen and the president, along with killing all non-whites and white "traitors".
Let's move on to topics that mean something.
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Post by Tired in CV on Jun 8, 2009 17:05:41 GMT -5
Your acusations and name calling is misdirected. Another "empty" statement! Could you please list the name calling on THIS blog concerning the polling incident?
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Post by jdredd on Jun 10, 2009 14:50:43 GMT -5
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Post by bruce on Jun 10, 2009 16:22:27 GMT -5
Everybody should read the WSJ story posted above.
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Post by johng on Jun 10, 2009 20:37:41 GMT -5
Good Read! Makes me happy I never forgot that lawnmower I pushed for less than minimum wage many years ago as it has been my guide! I can't apologize for my mistakes as I remain on a different route.
I promise to make opportunity available to all who are willing to follow in those "old value foot steps" , as soon as government wakes up makes building opportunity worthwhile!
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Post by jdredd on Jun 13, 2009 21:41:30 GMT -5
One of the cliches of the Vietnam War was that it was old men sending young men to die. Now we Baby Boomers are the old men sending young men to die in Iraq and Afghanistan, not that they seem that reluctant. Isn't this something we screwed up? If we had been more on the ball maybe this wouldn't have been necessary. How many more wars will we get America into before we leave the world stage?
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Post by jdredd on Jun 15, 2009 13:57:13 GMT -5
On the other hand, I think the vast majority of the Baby Boomers pretty much followed in their parents footsteps, doing things rather conventionally for the most part. Maybe it's just that the old ways aren't working anymore...
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Post by johng on Jun 15, 2009 17:34:05 GMT -5
BOOMERS went wrong when they let the BS from "Dr. Spock" dictate the lack of discipline in the family of man! That has now culminated in the age of "The Kids are In Charge" and we know what that means - There is no one to say NO you can't do that!
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Post by jackoliver on Jun 15, 2009 17:59:30 GMT -5
BOOMERS went wrong when they let the BS from "Dr. Spock" dictate the lack of discipline in the family of man! That has now culminated in the age of "The Kids are In Charge" and we know what that means - There is no one to say NO you can't do that! As a parent, there are MANY ways to say no without manly violence. It also teaches our children that resolutions to problems dont need to be violent. The caveman days are over, ask Child Protective services.
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