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Post by jdredd on Aug 22, 2013 18:58:37 GMT -5
So once again Syria is being accused of using MWD's. Will Big O put his money where his mouth is this time or will he do his paper tiger thing again and shine it on? Of all the things the right says about Obama, one is undeniable: he is in over his head when it comes to world affairs. He's been over his head since birth. But he may need to pull a rabbit from somewhere to save some face in 2014. Personally Syria can rot as far as I'm concerned. I'm not sure Obama gives a crap about 2014. He won his final election in 2012, and can cruise to 2017 when he can spend ALL his time on the golf course. As for Syria, you and a couple of hundred million other Americans feel the same way. How many people can even find the place on a map? By the way, did you ever notice three of the top five visitors of this site are from Muslim countries?
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Post by Turk on Aug 22, 2013 23:39:35 GMT -5
By the way, did you ever notice three of the top five visitors of this site are from Muslim countries? Yes and have found it very curious. When Algeria is the second most visited country it stirs my interest. My knee-jerk reaction, Obama was outsourcing anti-muslim sentiment.
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Post by Turk on Aug 27, 2013 23:58:21 GMT -5
Help me out here JD. I know I try to look at things pragmatically defying liberal thought process but I’m confused.
So here we are. Syria allegedly gasses a 100 plus men, women and children. Can the allegation positively be removed? Did the government do it? Did al qaeda do it? Or did it even happen? Is there any forensic evidence?
China and Russia support Syria. Syria and Iran say Israel will suffer if Obama intervenes. Is it really worth WWIII over a bunch of muslims? Personally, a morning flush is not worth a single muslim ever born as far as I’m concerned. That should get the muslim country visitor-ship to increase. Notice I refuse to capitalize the word.
In Syria we got a bad government fighting bad guys. Is there anything wrong letting bad guys kill bad guys? Over a 100k have died to date and all Obama has done is to suck his thumb. He only gets riled when he draws a line in the sand and the other guy pisses on his side. Obama’s side is not my side.
It is questionable if Obama has the authority to blow the brains out of Syria but both sides of the aisle have done similar without congress so that is a worthless debate. But I question Obama’s mental capacity. For a moment let’ put our liberal dunce hat on. Is this War? Are we going to spank Syria? How do we define victory? What is our exit strategy? Can we prove the event happened? Ummmmmm like, did WMD exists or not!!!!! Oh, could it be WMD’s were moved to Syria and Obama is the savior in waiting. We all know he already walks on water but I wanna see him part the seas.
This is just plain stupidity. We will spend 3 million dollars on a missile to kill a 3 dollar rat on a street corner. Obama is willing to put stability of the world on the line for his ego, his muslims buddies and the his brotherhood clan.
The way I see it. Obama is a fool if he lifts a finger. I get humanitarian aid. I’d let them all suffer if I were making the call but I’d not oppose aid. I do oppose any and all involvement beyond aid. But what the hell America wanted a boy president, America has a boy president.
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Post by jdredd on Aug 28, 2013 1:53:42 GMT -5
I think you have already hit the nail on the head, T. Obama would be a fool to do anything now just because he is a foreign policy amateur who opened his big mouth. I think this is a great time for America to just sit back and ask "What the hell are we trying to accomplish overseas?" and "What is in AMERICA'S best interest?", not Europe, not Israel, not the IMF. Much as I'd like to see Assad get a Hellfire right between the eyes, why make a martyr out of an asshole? (I say the same thing when I want to put a bullet between Rush's eyes) But our foreign policies are driven by special interests, some obvious, perhaps some secret, but Presidents pretty much seem to do what they are told IMHO, and not by the people. So Big O will do what he's pressured to do, and all we can do is sit back and be amazed, disgusted, and horrified at the results, and substituting a Republican for a Democrat in the WH or vice versa never seems to make any real difference. (I still argue with my lib friends about whether Gore would have gone to war in Afghanistan and Iraq if he was elected. I suspect he would have done just about the same things Bush did after 9/11)
I wish I had a genius solution for the Syrian (or Egypt to boot) problem, but if I did I would be trying to cash in on it somehow!
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Post by Turk on Aug 28, 2013 13:57:56 GMT -5
You right someone is pulling his strings and my money is on the muslim brotherhood.
If Syria and/or Iran go after Israel, Obama inside we’ll feel “mission accomplished.”
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Post by jdredd on Aug 28, 2013 23:02:00 GMT -5
Well, let's see: on one side we have Syrian Rebels with Al Qaeda elements supported by Saudi Arabia, and on the other side Assad supported by Iran and Hezbollah. Who's side are we supposed to be on? Should we care who wins?
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Post by jdredd on Sept 2, 2013 2:11:22 GMT -5
I'm gonna ask the same question in 2013 I asked in 2003 about another tinpot dictator and his alleged WMD's: Why can't we just assassinate him? The CIA has no problem blowing away alleged Al Qaeda all over the Middle East. Are they really that squeamish about whacking a "head of state"? So we'll spend a thousand times the treasure and blood we need to just so we don't seem rude.
Whatever.
There is no cure for stupid.
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Post by jdredd on Sept 5, 2013 16:18:31 GMT -5
Not too hard to guess what TFS are talking about today: Syria, Syria, Syria. Certainly more interesting than Zimmerman, Zimmerman, Zimmerman.
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Post by Turk on Sept 6, 2013 10:23:49 GMT -5
I found the below on Facebook.
I did a little research. Seems it’s not that far off. NATO did a poll just last week and found Assad has a 70% approval rating. When asked of the alternative Assad’s approval soared to 90%. Putin claims he has conclusive evidence Assad is not responsible for the chemical weapon usage. I find it ironic I put more trust in the Russian president than I do the president of the US.
Diane Feinstein’s office reports the calls coming in at 98 to 1 against an air strike. Her brilliant response, “People don’t know the facts.”
The Nobel Pease prize winner is now going to spank Syria for something he believes they did. Obama is wrong, it’s not because he’s a liberal or black it’s because he’s a fool. And I’ll include any member of congress voting for the stupidity of a war with Syria as fools.
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Post by Tired in CV on Sept 7, 2013 23:07:33 GMT -5
I agree with you Turk. I think that Obama's connection with the Muslim Brotherhood is a strong reason for his actions. As for the facebook comment, I believe those comments. Syria was a political pain in our butt for supporting Hezbollah and its connection to Iran. But as of itself, it was not a problem. And, the people have supported Assad and have done so not under duress. It is for this reason that I believe we should stay out of that "civil" war. The chemical weapons were NOT used by Assad but were supplied to the rebels by Saudia Arabia. Whether they were "mis-handled" or not I don't know but the rebels were responsible for their release. To many lies from this administration and to strong of a desire to get involved.
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Post by jdredd on Feb 15, 2014 22:02:53 GMT -5
What I love about the right is the way they miss the real issues while mouthing off about the unimportant ones. While they are desperately trying to keep Benghazi alive, the real reason they should be slamming Obama and Hillary is their epic failure in Syria. They had a chance to prevent a civil war (Assad meets a Hellfire missile) and instead they dithered, and now it's three years later and hundreds of thousands of Syrians are dead and the opposition is run by Islamic Militants. But who cares? Susan Rice LIED on Sunday morning TV!
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Post by jdredd on Jun 3, 2014 17:39:53 GMT -5
www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iran-claims-victory-with-assads-anticipated-win-in-syrian-election/2014/06/02/314f43a3-164a-4817-94bb-3b4483fa9dc6_story.html?hpid=z9"BEIRUT — As Syrians went to the polls Tuesday, President Bashar al-Assad’s chief ally, Iran, was trumpeting his anticipated reelection as a defeat for the United States. Top Iranian officials in recent days have issued a flurry of declarations celebrating not only the affirmation of Assad’s continued hold on power that the election represents but also Iran’s role in sustaining him." Hey, Barack, you big pussy, there is still time for you to stick it to both Putin and Iran. All you have to do is send a Hellfire up Assad's ass. OK, so it's against international law. Do you care? I don't. Oh well, I might as well wish pigs could fly as hope Obama, the wimpy community organizer, to be that kind of bad boy.
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Post by jdredd on Aug 25, 2014 0:47:08 GMT -5
www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28918792"Fighters from Islamic State (IS) have taken control of a key Syrian government airbase, activists say. The Tabqa airbase was the last remaining stronghold of Bashar al-Assad's government in Raqqa province.. State TV confirmed that government forces had "evacuated" the airbase. Days of fighting there have reportedly killed hundreds on both sides. More than 191,000 people have now been killed in the three-year-old Syrian conflict up to April, the UN says. IS, formerly known as Isis, has expanded its reach into large parts of eastern Syria and northern Iraq in recent months." Goodie! The IS has captured an airbase from the Butcher of Damascus! Oh wait! These guys are worse than Assad! (Or so I'm told) And Assad is not threatening the border status quo like IS is. The Powers that Be hate borders being changed...without their permission. Look how they are still "punishing" Putin for seizing the Crimea.
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Post by jdredd on Sept 22, 2014 23:30:40 GMT -5
www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29321136"The US and allies said to include Arab nations have launched the first air strikes against Islamic State (IS) militants in Syria, the Pentagon says. Spokesman Rear Adm John Kirby said fighter and bomber jets and Tomahawk missiles were used in the attack. The strikes were expected as part of President Barack Obama's pledge to "degrade and destroy" IS, which has taken huge swathes of Syria and Iraq. The US has already launched 190 air strikes in Iraq since August. However, Monday's action expands the campaign against the militant group across the national border into Syria." You couldn't make this up. The West has become the air force of the Butcher of Damascus, Mr. Nerve Gas, Mr. Barrel Bomb Bashar Assad. How low have we sunk? Stay tuned, we have just begun.
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Post by jdredd on May 22, 2015 21:03:09 GMT -5
Well, it looks like that old war criminal Bashar Assad, after putting up a good fight and killing hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen, sometimes with WMD's, is running into some trouble. ISIS is advancing on him, despite the support of Hezbollah and Iran, and lately Western airpower. Makes you cry, doesn't it? Well, not everyone. I won't cry a tear if ISIS separates his head from his body.
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