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Post by jdredd on Jun 26, 2009 14:11:24 GMT -5
When I was young I remember our parent's generation used to argue about whether America should be the world's policeman. I don't hear that anymore. The Boomers have accepted that role, and Gen X doesn't care (what do they care about? Fighting for their "Right to Party"?). Most of the rest of the world, although sometimes they loudly complain about America's policeman role, actually seem to appreciate us doing the dirty work. Obama seems to accept our policeman duty just as much as Bush, or Clinton, or Bush 41, etc. So be it. If we can afford it and that's what the American people like, who am I to say "But wait, what right...?". Iran, Korea, watch your step...
Seems like law enforcement is a popular subject so I am only too ready to oblige; we have a half dozen other threads on Iran, Korea, etc. where we can talk about America's enforcement role in the world.
Changed it back. I do these things.
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Post by johng on Jun 26, 2009 20:35:18 GMT -5
I question your motive with these comments at times? We are basically an honest and protective people and we are normally patient but when provoked we take it serious. Our allies appreciate that or at least they used to!
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Post by jdredd on Jun 26, 2009 20:55:58 GMT -5
What I was trying to say is that the idea that we want to stick our noses in everybody's business used to be controversial, with even conservatives opposing it at times. But now it seems to be a given for both Democrat (Clinton in Bosnia and Somalia) and of course Republican. Alas, I can see it's all rather subjective with your "when provoked" comment. I do wonder if sometimes we are being used by our so-called allies, but I can let it all slide if you prefer.
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Post by johng on Jun 27, 2009 15:41:39 GMT -5
Never let it "slide" and I will never prefer that! Both parties are such small particles of what they used to be JD. The republican of today is far left of the Democrat of 1960 that I see little value in continuing to separate the activity of either. Especially where foreign policy and protection of America's interest are concerned because we seem complacent and politically driven with most all decisions! I am proud to have served my time during the "Cold War Era" and honestly believe our "Strength" in conviction is what made us the greatest superpower on Earth! I also believe that position is hard kept and comes with some enormous responsibility! Put everything in its due perspective and "We The People of these United States Of America" are the best keepers of the society of mankind! There in lies my greatest fear with the deliberate degradation and internal destructive powers that are in control today! The apology tours and whacko policies are not good for us or the rest of mankind, IMO.
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Post by jdredd on Jun 27, 2009 18:00:33 GMT -5
I appreciate you encouraging me not to "let it slide". There is already more than enough apathy.
Both parties are not what they were in 1960. At that time they were still be run by the WWII generation, which had gone through the Depression and the War, and were convinced they were under attack from Communism. We grew up without those experiences, and also without as much of the paranoia.
But we inherited the policeman role for better or worse. I just wonder who's picking our friends and enemies, I know it's not me. Nor are they asking my advice on strategery.
But the lack of response on this thread (except I can always depend on you, jg) says volumes.
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Post by CM on Jun 27, 2009 18:53:54 GMT -5
A lack of response means nothing other than a lack of response. Jg just happens to think a lot quicker than I sandiegoscene.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=announcements&action=display&thread=130If there were to be a keeper of peace it should rest solely on the United Nations, the problem is the UN is a worthless meaningless piece of crap. I realize how sensitive you are on Friday nights I’ll do my best not to overlook your topics in the future.
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Post by bruce on Jun 27, 2009 20:06:23 GMT -5
jdredd- you are not alone, I take my night meds around 5pm and am usually in bed by 7:30 or 8 and haven't been out past that time for months. I usually listen to the radio for an hour or so before I go to sleep. The meds make me sleepy so I have no nightlife either.
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Post by jdredd on Jun 27, 2009 20:11:32 GMT -5
A lack of response means nothing other than a lack of response. Jg just happens to think a lot quicker than I sandiegoscene.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=announcements&action=display&thread=130If there were to be a keeper of peace it should rest solely on the United Nations, the problem is the UN is a worthless meaningless piece of crap. I realize how sensitive you are on Friday nights I’ll do my best not to overlook your topics in the future. Trust me CM, I love to whine! But I am serious that silence can tell you a lot sometimes.
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Post by ♥Fem Dem♥ on Jun 27, 2009 21:07:28 GMT -5
A lack of response means nothing other than a lack of response. Jg just happens to think a lot quicker than I sandiegoscene.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=announcements&action=display&thread=130If there were to be a keeper of peace it should rest solely on the United Nations, the problem is the UN is a worthless meaningless piece of crap. I realize how sensitive you are on Friday nights I’ll do my best not to overlook your topics in the future. Trust me CM, I love to whine! But I am serious that silence can tell you a lot sometimes. Honey silence is golden but I like to talk dirty. A good cop is an off duty cop. understand? ?
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Post by jdredd on Jun 27, 2009 22:03:03 GMT -5
Trust me CM, I love to whine! But I am serious that silence can tell you a lot sometimes. Honey silence is golden but I like to talk dirty. A good cop is an off duty cop. understand? ? Uh, not really.
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Post by jdredd on Jun 27, 2009 22:16:41 GMT -5
CM: To expand on what I said before, threads that die can tell you a lot. For instance, the "Lost in Space" thread did not generate a lot of interest, which confirmed my suspicion that space travel is not on very many radar screens anymore. I also thought there might be some dramatic space program news but I guess not. And the "Hippie Hell" thread didn't do so well, pretty much all I got was that they were a bunch of unwashed bums. Apparently they have pretty much faded to oblivion. (But Hitler generated some interest. Go figure.)
On the other hand "Are Catholics Un-American?" actually did better than I thought it might!
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Post by Tired in CV on Jun 28, 2009 1:35:57 GMT -5
On the other hand "Are Catholics Un-American?" actually did better than I thought it might! Much of that thread doesn't even discuss Catholics though!
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Post by jdredd on Jun 28, 2009 1:40:35 GMT -5
On the other hand "Are Catholics Un-American?" actually did better than I thought it might! Much of that thread doesn't even discuss Catholics though! True enough. But at least it stimulated something!
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Post by tpfkalarry on Jun 28, 2009 11:58:08 GMT -5
And there's a shadow on the faces Of the men who send the guns To the wars that are fought in places Where their business interest runs
On the radio talk shows and the T.V. You hear one thing again and again How the U.S.A. stands for freedom And we come to the aid of a friend But who are the ones that we call our friends These governments killing their own? Or the people who finally can't take any more And they pick up a gun or a brick or a stone There are lives in the balance There are people under fire There are children at the cannons And there is blood on the wire
There's a shadow on the faces Of the men who fan the flames Of the wars that are fought in places Where we can't even say the names
In La Jolla the response time for the police is significantly faster than it is in National City. There are parts of the world that get our undivided attention and then other parts that do not. The killings in Somalia did not get near the attention as the protests in Iran. Bush said in his 2000 campaign speech that we were not the world's policeman. Is that irony or just cryptic?
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Post by jackoliver on Jun 28, 2009 14:59:31 GMT -5
In La Jolla the response time for the police is significantly faster than it is in National City. There are parts of the world that get our undivided attention and then other parts that do not. The killings in Somalia did not get near the attention as the protests in Iran. Bush said in his 2000 campaign speech that we were not the world's policeman. Is that irony or just cryptic? Interesting. Im not suprised rich white folk (I am white by the way), get better police service than poor minority neighborhoods. why is that?
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