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Post by dolphie on Nov 1, 2009 17:23:44 GMT -5
Who said this: "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said. I saw most of Rush's interview this morning. When he talked about the freedom grab of this administration and its attack on the private sector, I thought he was right on. This administration has all the markings of a Marxist regime: Do as we say, not as how we behave. Seems to me they are partying hard in this White House. I wonder if, according to Axelrod himself, how many orchids they will be growing in the off-season with all that extra hot air. Classic!!! That tops EH's monkeys!
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Post by dolphie on Nov 1, 2009 17:26:10 GMT -5
Turk, Are Karma Points here like in Golf, the fewer you have, the better your score? It depends - if JO/bruce knocks down your Karma points - then yes, it is a win. If others exalt you - then you are winning more! JO & bruce like to smite you when they disagree with you - not for truly valid reasons.
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Post by jackoliver on Nov 1, 2009 17:37:51 GMT -5
Turk, Are Karma Points here like in Golf, the fewer you have, the better your score? It depends - if JO/bruce knocks down your Karma points - then yes, it is a win. If others exalt you - then you are winning more! JO & bruce like to smite you when they disagree with you - not for truly valid reasons. Just following your lead !
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Post by jdredd on Nov 1, 2009 17:41:49 GMT -5
JO does bring up something that I have been wondering about...Why are so many leaders of the Republican Party, the party of "family values", on their second or third spouse? I'm wondering if perhaps they believe in "family values" BECAUSE they have been through a bad marriage. My other theory is that the same ambition that causes them to be "successful" also causes them to keep their eyes open for a better deal in spouses. Any ideas?
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Post by dolphie on Nov 1, 2009 18:06:49 GMT -5
It depends - if JO/bruce knocks down your Karma points - then yes, it is a win. If others exalt you - then you are winning more! JO & bruce like to smite you when they disagree with you - not for truly valid reasons. Just following your lead ! Actually - that is not true. I do not tend to smite. I do tend to exalt. I am not the petty liberal who thinks others disagreeing with me warrants a smite.
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Post by cemilne on Nov 1, 2009 18:09:19 GMT -5
JD, how many times was Ted Kennedy married? Can you say Mary Jo Kopeckne? Don't remember the last Republican that murdered someone.
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Post by dolphie on Nov 1, 2009 18:12:06 GMT -5
JO does bring up something that I have been wondering about...Why are so many leaders of the Republican Party, the party of "family values", on their second or third spouse? I'm wondering if perhaps they believe in "family values" BECAUSE they have been through a bad marriage. My other theory is that the same ambition that causes them to be "successful" also causes them to keep their eyes open for a better deal in spouses. Any ideas? JD - They are human. Many people marry for all the wrong reasons - no matter how right those reasons appeared initially. Also, people grow apart - due to their different pathways during a marriage. One of the smartest things I have seen is 'Date' night for couples. The other is 'never go to bed angry.' I watched segments on marriages that last a long time - they all say the same things. (the people who have been married over 30yrs) They are still like newlyweds. So cute! I respect their opinions. The other point is - there will most likely be tough times in a marriage - do you give up or work through it? (the latter comes with caveats - some marriages are best left behind) I think children play a big part as well. If there are children involved - the children must never think they are at fault, they must never be able to play the adults against each other, and they must always feel like they are FULLY loved - no matter what. Just some of my observations. I am sure fruit of the forbidden tree comes into play as well. Maybe they come to appreciate family values later - I don't know. I am not in their heads.
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Post by jackoliver on Nov 1, 2009 18:32:35 GMT -5
JO does bring up something that I have been wondering about...Why are so many leaders of the Republican Party, the party of "family values", on their second or third spouse? I'm wondering if perhaps they believe in "family values" BECAUSE they have been through a bad marriage. My other theory is that the same ambition that causes them to be "successful" also causes them to keep their eyes open for a better deal in spouses. Any ideas? JD - They are human. Many people marry for all the wrong reasons - no matter how right those reasons appeared initially. Also, people grow apart - due to their different pathways during a marriage. One of the smartest things I have seen is 'Date' night for couples. The other is 'never go to bed angry.' I watched segments on marriages that last a long time - they all say the same things. (the people who have been married over 30yrs) They are still like newlyweds. So cute! I respect their opinions. The other point is - there will most likely be tough times in a marriage - do you give up or work through it? (the latter comes with caveats - some marriages are best left behind) I think children play a big part as well. If there are children involved - the children must never think they are at fault, they must never be able to play the adults against each other, and they must always feel like they are FULLY loved - no matter what. Just some of my observations. I am sure fruit of the forbidden tree comes into play as well. Maybe they come to appreciate family values later - I don't know. I am not in their heads. Great, so when ever Rush or another right wing mouthpiece is talking about Family Values, you can remind me we are all human and week and the family values talk is just talk, not a possition of any certain political party. Now we are getting somewere.,
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Post by Turk on Nov 1, 2009 18:34:48 GMT -5
It is better to aspire to values than not to have any at all.
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Post by dolphie on Nov 1, 2009 18:36:34 GMT -5
JD - They are human. Many people marry for all the wrong reasons - no matter how right those reasons appeared initially. Also, people grow apart - due to their different pathways during a marriage. One of the smartest things I have seen is 'Date' night for couples. The other is 'never go to bed angry.' I watched segments on marriages that last a long time - they all say the same things. (the people who have been married over 30yrs) They are still like newlyweds. So cute! I respect their opinions. The other point is - there will most likely be tough times in a marriage - do you give up or work through it? (the latter comes with caveats - some marriages are best left behind) I think children play a big part as well. If there are children involved - the children must never think they are at fault, they must never be able to play the adults against each other, and they must always feel like they are FULLY loved - no matter what. Just some of my observations. I am sure fruit of the forbidden tree comes into play as well. Maybe they come to appreciate family values later - I don't know. I am not in their heads. Great, so when ever Rush or another right wing mouthpiece is talking about Family Values, you can remind me we are all human and week and the family values talk is just talk, not a possition of any certain political party. Now we are getting somewere., I do not think people are a 'week' - week is a segment of time associated with months and days within the Julian calendar. The rest - please show specifically where it was said that Family Values is not a poSition of given parties. Also, please - show me where you are so perfect you can throw stones from your glass house? At least JD looked at human frailty - people who endeavor to achieve goals/standards - yet are confronted with weaknesses from within. His question was actually a good one. Yours - inane, petulant and without thought.
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Post by jackoliver on Nov 1, 2009 18:53:05 GMT -5
Great, so when ever Rush or another right wing mouthpiece is talking about Family Values, you can remind me we are all human and week and the family values talk is just talk, not a possition of any certain political party. Now we are getting somewere., I do not think people are a 'week' - week is a segment of time associated with months and days within the Julian calendar. The rest - please show specifically where it was said that Family Values is not a poSition of given parties. Also, please - show me where you are so perfect you can throw stones from your glass house? At least JD looked at human frailty - people who endeavor to achieve goals/standards - yet are confronted with weaknesses from within. His question was actually a good one. Yours - inane, petulant and without thought. I am staying on topic with out calling you names. You unfortunately cant do the same. At least I expect that from you, it does make me sad though. Name calling does not change the fact that the GOP Party PLATFORM claiming to be the champion of family values is a hollow, hypocritical untruth.
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Post by jdredd on Nov 1, 2009 18:56:06 GMT -5
Dolphie made some good points about marriages in general.
Turk made a good point about Republican divorces in particular.
I thank you both.
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Post by cemilne on Nov 1, 2009 18:56:31 GMT -5
Great, so when ever Rush or another right wing mouthpiece is talking about Family Values, you can remind me we are all human and week and the family values talk is just talk, not a possition of any certain political party. Now we are getting somewere., I do not think people are a 'week' - week is a segment of time associated with months and days within the Julian calendar. The rest - please show specifically where it was said that Family Values is not a poSition of given parties. Also, please - show me where you are so perfect you can throw stones from your glass house? At least JD looked at human frailty - people who endeavor to achieve goals/standards - yet are confronted with weaknesses from within. His question was actually a good one. Yours - inane, petulant and without thought. ^5, I 'Exalt' you.
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Post by jackoliver on Nov 1, 2009 18:59:51 GMT -5
And on goes Rush Limbough, the champion of the Replican Party of Family Values.
I couldnt have wished for a better representative.
Ditto.
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Post by cemilne on Nov 1, 2009 19:15:03 GMT -5
And on goes Rush Limbough, the champion of the Replican Party of Family Values. I couldnt have wished for a better representative. Ditto. How about Sen. John Edwards?
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