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Post by jdredd on May 24, 2009 17:27:23 GMT -5
I'll let you in on a little secret if you promise not to tell: We're paying Cheney to keep opening his big mouth. The longer that torture-loving SOB is the face of the GOP the better we like it. If I was the RNC I would be hiring some Blackwater thug as we speak to make that guy disappear.
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Post by Jack on May 24, 2009 19:35:10 GMT -5
I'll let you in on a little secret if you promise not to tell: We're paying Cheney to keep opening his big mouth. The longer that torture-loving SOB is the face of the GOP the better we like it. If I was the RNC I would be hiring some Blackwater thug as we speak to make that guy disappear. jdredd, Let me start out by saying that I like you for you're usually semi-reasonable liberal comments, I'm glad you came here to become part of the group and I certainly hope you stay. That said, I just have to ask, do you ever bother to read some of this crap before you post it? I'd truly be surprised if you said that you actually felt safer with a clown like Biden as VP.
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Post by CM on May 24, 2009 20:08:29 GMT -5
I would have to say as much as the left dislikes Cheney I’d be hard pressed to believe anyone in the right or left mind would think of Biden other than the national embarrassment. The man is a walking buffoon; personally I have to question Obama’s ability to reason choosing him. If there is a God I hope to hell he protects Obama because God help this nation if Biden were president.
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Post by CM on May 24, 2009 20:31:30 GMT -5
The Majority of America has turned down the GOP's use of fear. The Majority of America have faith in our new President Obama. A United America should have nothing to fear but fear itself. What great person said that? Obama is doing a pretty good job in the fear department. The majority yes but not by much. United America seems many on the left want anything but, so me the love.
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Post by bruce on May 24, 2009 20:36:42 GMT -5
64% favorable, 27% unfavorable. That's quite a margin. Gallup, May 24.
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Post by CM on May 24, 2009 20:37:36 GMT -5
1. He's is not a republican from Texas like Bush/Cheney. 2. He is bringing integrity and honor back to the White House and to the United States of America. 3. He is not Sarah Palin, Karl Rove, Sean Hannity, McCain, or any other right wing extreamist. 4.He did not MISSLEAD America into a false war that has cost precious American Lives for no reason. 5.The Majority of America United to elect him America's first African American President in HISTORY...!!!! This is not a President Obama bashing thread so back on topic... Rush Limbough last week stepped down from being the current leader of the Republican party....Toooo Bad.....I kinda liked him being the leader... Now all the GOP have is Michael Steele ;D Someone who is not someone else is great, ha then everyone is great, kind of strips the meaning of greatness from the word great. But Rocket does have a legitimate question is there anything GREAT about Obama? Sorry I forgot he picked Biden, that was greatness.
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Post by CM on May 24, 2009 20:43:23 GMT -5
64% favorable, 27% unfavorable. That's quite a margin. Gallup, May 24. Gallup - extreme far left leaning biased poll Obama - for the first time Obama falls below 60% in the unbiased polls. Reality polls: 57% favorable 41% unfavorable The honeymoon is almost over, time for a reality check.
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Post by jdredd on May 24, 2009 21:19:14 GMT -5
I'll let you in on a little secret if you promise not to tell: We're paying Cheney to keep opening his big mouth. The longer that torture-loving SOB is the face of the GOP the better we like it. If I was the RNC I would be hiring some Blackwater thug as we speak to make that guy disappear. jdredd, Let me start out by saying that I like you for you're usually semi-reasonable liberal comments, I'm glad you came here to become part of the group and I certainly hope you stay. That said, I just have to ask, do you ever bother to read some of this crap before you post it? I'd truly be surprised if you said that you actually felt safer with a clown like Biden as VP. Here I was just trying to give a heads up to my GOP friends, and I get this. Crap, huh? OK, if that's the way you want to play it, Dick Cheney is a great American beloved by millions, and if it was up to me I'd run him for President in 2012. Happy now?
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Post by Tired in CV on May 24, 2009 21:36:04 GMT -5
Dick Cheney is a great American beloved by millions, and if it was up to me I'd run him for President in 2012. Happy now? No, not at all! You guys are always trying to pick the GOP's next presidential candidate! With the choices made, it makes me wonder about who you voted for! By the way, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY BIDEN! ;D ;D
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Post by Jack on May 24, 2009 21:36:32 GMT -5
Dick Cheney is a great American beloved by millions, and if it was up to me I'd run him for President in 2012. Happy now?Jdredd, That's why I like you - you catch on so quick!
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Post by jdredd on May 24, 2009 21:46:19 GMT -5
Oh, what I forgot to say was "Dick Cheney is a great American like Joe McCarthy or Richard Nixon, beloved by millions..."
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Post by Rocket on May 24, 2009 22:29:20 GMT -5
Oh, what I forgot to say was "Dick Cheney is a great American like Joe McCarthy or Richard Nixon, beloved by millions..." Better sarcastic love than laughed at. The national clown Joe Biden. What republicans are teaching liberals. The lies of OBAMA. Don’t ask don’t tell. OBAMA LIED Word to the wise, when it comes to President Barack Obama, don’t believe a word he says. Track Every Dime of the stimulus bill he said. The truth, Obama has orchestrated the biggest crime against the children, and future children of this country. While continuing to say one thing, and doing another.
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Post by CM on May 24, 2009 23:29:21 GMT -5
Just a thought - I suggest we back-off the picture thing otherwise we’ll have competing negative pictures. Personally I don’t care to scroll past a bunch of pictures that do not add content to the post. Let me be clear I’m only addressing negative pictures. Deal. If you have a need to post unflattering pictures expect the same in return.
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Post by Rocket on May 24, 2009 23:46:07 GMT -5
CM, deal
Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about 10 - 15 years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.
We demanded and then codified into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people whom we knew could never pay back? Why? We learned recently that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months,but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September.
Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "We the People," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.
We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?
We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?
We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?). We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?
Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, Social Security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about.) The list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth. It is potentially 1929 x 10. And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.
And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatorycivilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more important.)
Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change...radical change. Why?
I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now. This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.
And that is only the beginning.
I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully them into submission.
And then he was duly elected to office, with a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression]. Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department by department, person by person, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think. How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.
He did it with a compliant media - Did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and...change. And the people surely got what they voted for. (Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.) Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of. When Winston rchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.
Don't forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years - a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency - it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.
As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong, close my eyes, have another latte and ignore what is transpiring around me.
Some people scoff at me; others laugh or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe - and why I believe it. I pray I am wrong. But, I do not think I am.
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Post by jdredd on May 24, 2009 23:54:48 GMT -5
That was much better than goofy pictures, Rocket. Addressing some of what you are saying will take a while, when I have more time. But at least I don't think you are apathetic, which I can be at times.
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