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Post by jdredd on Aug 1, 2017 2:40:05 GMT -5
Get YOUR facts straight. The GOP was gunning for Putin YEARS before the 2016 election. Don't you remember how many in the GOP Establishment were slamming Trump because he was "soft" on Russia? The Democraps only jumped on the bandwagon after Putin gave them the finger by backing Trump. Sorry I got my TRUTH & FACTS by REAL NEWS Not your liberal Fake News! Proof? evidence? It was your Party the Commie Democraps is going after Putin! There is no Proof Russia is helping Trump! The Repukes is jump on the Democrap band Wagon! So again Proof? Evidence? that Russia is working for Trump! Dont use your liberal fake news as Proof! you fake news been debunked many times! Debunked by who? Nutz News Network? Maybe you believe the crap that comes out of them but I don't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 22:44:46 GMT -5
Sorry I got my TRUTH & FACTS by REAL NEWS Not your liberal Fake News! Proof? evidence? It was your Party the Commie Democraps is going after Putin! There is no Proof Russia is helping Trump! The Repukes is jump on the Democrap band Wagon! So again Proof? Evidence? that Russia is working for Trump! Dont use your liberal fake news as Proof! you fake news been debunked many times! Debunked by who? Nutz News Network? Maybe you believe the crap that comes out of them but I don't. Hey Pedo Troll! Cant handle the Truth? Thought so! Again Evidence? Proof? Site your source!
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Post by jdredd on Aug 28, 2017 1:54:27 GMT -5
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/27/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-democratic-party-move-leftAs Democrats feel their way out of the wilderness after sustaining one of the most stunning defeats in modern presidential history, the party’s ascendant left, emboldened by Sanders’s successes in 2016 and an energetic grassroots movement, is pressing ahead with an economic agenda that includes proposals for universal healthcare and debt-free college. And they are starting to feel that this may be their moment. Progressive leaders such as Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, the firebrand from Massasetts, have helped steer the party toward a platform of economic populism, which they believe is a political roadmap to winning back the House of Representatives – and possibly even the Senate – in next year’s congressional elections, and stopping Donald Trump’s agenda in its tracks." “The political energy has migrated to the polar extremes on both sides and it has left a large swath of the population feeling homeless,” said Will Marshall, one of the leading intellectual architects of the neoliberal “New Democrat” movement embraced by Bill Clinton and Al Gore in the 1990s. Worried that pragmatism will be relegated to the past, Marshall formed New Democracy, an organization that aims to “expand the party’s appeal across middle America and make Democrats competitive everywhere”. The group is looking to fight back against progressives’ attacks on their brand of market-friendly liberalism"
Seems like the GOP found success by appealing to their far right fringe, so why shouldn't the Dems appeal to their fringe? Should the Dems stay stuck in Clintonism forever? It would be nice to have a party that is really left-leaning. It would also be nice to have a real peace party, but I'm not holding my breath. The generals would have to be knocked off their pedestals for that to happen.
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Post by jdredd on Oct 1, 2017 21:31:55 GMT -5
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Post by jdredd on Oct 7, 2017 21:08:25 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/us/politics/democrats-resistance-fundraising.html?&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news"WASHINGTON — It started as a scrappy grass-roots protest movement against President Trump, but now the so-called resistance is attracting six- and seven-figure checks from major liberal donors, posing an insurgent challenge to some of the left’s most venerable institutions — and the Democratic Party itself. The jockeying between groups, donors and operatives for cash and turf is occurring mostly behind the scenes. But it has grown acrimonious at times, with upstarts complaining they are being boxed out by a liberal establishment that they say enables the sort of Democratic timidity that paved the way for the Trump presidency. The tug of war — more than the lingering squabbles between supporters of Hillary Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont — foreshadows a once-in-a-generation reorganization of the American left that could dictate the tactics and ideology of the Democratic Party for years to come. If the newcomers prevail, they could pull the party further to the left, leading it to embrace policy positions like those advocated by Mr. Sanders, including single-payer health care and free tuition at public colleges." Single-payer health care and free tuition? What about a real issue like endless phony wars? The Dems can go f**k themselves if they refuse to talk about that.
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Post by jdredd on Nov 5, 2017 23:28:25 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/opinion/the-new-democratic-party.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region"More people in polls appear to be waking to the reality that Trump is a walking failure who built his legend and his fortune on the lies that he was savvy and shrewd and a consummate deal maker. They are also waking to the very real possibility that all these Trump campaign contacts with Russians that everyone on the campaign seemed to forget may not be an epidemic of amnesia, but instead a widespread effort to cover something up. Liberals have the will and determination to turn this giant mistake around, to pressure their elected officials or possibly replace them. They have the resolve to resist Trump by every means at their disposal, while clinging to the hope that he might one day be replaced. The only issue I see is that these efforts seem to be operating separately from the national Democratic Party, a dinosaur of bureaucratic machinery in an evolved age of direct democratic action. Liberalism has leapt over the Democratic Party. Liberalism has its eye on a new beginning, while the mainstream party is stuck looking backward and bickering. The Resistance isn’t part of the old Democratic Party; The Resistance is the new Democratic Party, or at least its future." The Dem old guard is not going to give up without a fight. Look at Feinstein.
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Post by jdredd on Nov 11, 2017 3:46:25 GMT -5
OMG, Joe Biden is being mentioned as a Presidential candidate in 2020? That would definitely not be a new improved Democrat Party, it would be the same old tired Democratic Party. Can't these geezers let it go?
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Post by jdredd on Nov 26, 2017 23:07:56 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2017/11/24/us/politics/democratic-party.html?mabReward=CTM6&recid=0wvSHn9OCDfBsPMMbZ3R55m8YEH&recp=1&action=click&pgtype=Homepage®ion=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=RecEngine&_r=0"Democratic leaders in Washington have been criticized for lacking a message that voters can embrace. They have been disparaged as too old and too wedded to the zero sum politics of this polarized era. So we looked outside the nation’s capital to ask leaders in states and cities to offer their vision for reconnecting with voters who have left the party and propelled Republicans into control of the White House and Congress. They offered a blend of specific policies, like focusing on clean energy jobs of the future, and general principles, highlighting the success of past Democratic presidents who showed that the government can be an instrument for positive and lasting change. All of them agreed that the party needed to focus on matters that are urgent and relevant in the lives of ordinary Americans, rather than engaging in daily firefights with Republicans and President Trump."
Like the namby-pamby platitudes from these lame Democrats is going to do any good. I'll stick with Antifa.
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Post by jdredd on Jan 8, 2018 18:31:50 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/oprah-2020-president-globes.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region"I am not immune to Oprah’s charms, but President Winfrey is a terrible idea. It also underscores the extent to which Trumpism — the kowtowing to celebrity and ratings, the repudiation of experience and expertise — has infected our civic life. The ideal post-Trump politician will, at the very least, be a deeply serious figure with a strong record of public service behind her. It would be a devastating, self-inflicted wound for the Democrats to settle for even benevolent mimicry of Mr. Trump’s hallucinatory circus act. Indeed, the magical thinking fueling the idea of Oprah in 2020 is a worrisome sign about the state of the Democratic Party. That Ms. Winfrey could probably beat those considered likely front-runners — Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Kirsten Gillibrand — is testament to how demoralized and devoid of fresh political talent the post-Obama party has become. In a way, the conversation on the left (and the anti-Trump right) around Ms. Winfrey is more troubling than the emotional immaturity and anti-intellectualism pulsing out of the red states that elected Mr. Trump. Those voters have long defined themselves in opposition to the intellectual seriousness Democrats purport to personify."
Really? Dumbocrats purport to personify intellectual seriousness? Who knew. But "intellectual seriousness" does not get you into the WH. Celebrity does. Elizabeth Warren may be an awesome liberal, but frankly she's just another boring old white woman like Hillary. Oprah kicks ass!
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Post by Turk on Jan 9, 2018 18:52:35 GMT -5
We don't need a fat hog racist that wants white people dead in the WH no matter how good it makes for headlines, oh wait, that's all democrats got. The Oval Office isn't big enough for her grossly overweight a$$. She does have one thing going for her, she's better at golf than Obama, even if she doesn't play.
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Post by Turk on Jan 9, 2018 21:38:26 GMT -5
The left's pinup
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Post by jdredd on Jan 9, 2018 22:36:51 GMT -5
Nevertheless, Oprah vs Trump in 2020 would be awesome. We'd really see which side of the cultural divide has the numbers. Are old white folks dying off in sufficient numbers yet to tip the scales? Will the Asian vote make a difference and which way will they fall? Stay tuned!
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Post by Turk on Jan 10, 2018 12:23:38 GMT -5
Nevertheless, Oprah vs Trump in 2020 would be awesome. We'd really see which side of the cultural divide has the numbers. Are old white folks dying off in sufficient numbers yet to tip the scales? Will the Asian vote make a difference and which way will they fall? Stay tuned! The best that could come from and Oprah ticket is a barrel of laughs. I think the right will fear her since the left votes emotion void of logic. It will be fun to watch Hollywood soil themselves with glee.
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Post by jdredd on Jan 10, 2018 18:19:18 GMT -5
Gosh, I want to be soiled with glee! Sounds like nasty fun. But I have always said that logic is highly overrated. Don't forget we are talking about HUMAN logic, which is necessarily flawed. God's logic is incomprehensible to us.
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Post by jdredd on Jan 22, 2018 15:06:12 GMT -5
So the Dems went to the wall for the sake of the Dreamers. Was that wise, politically? Who cares? At least they stood for SOMETHING for once. And now they are depending on a promise from supervillain Mitch McConnell to bring up DACA later. What could go wrong?
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